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    I am currently, being inspired by this thread, working on Caelcorwynn island.

    To give you a short summary:

    The island was given by the Roeles to the Cael family (I wanted to continue the naming equalities between realm and family). As the Caels were members of house Roele (So to speak), in the same manner as the Dosieres are, their station is a bit different than the other realms.

    They are ruled by a High Lady at present. This title I have not worked out, in regards to what it should be the equal of. I thought of making the family Princes and Princesses, as canon has established that there were Principalities ruled over by members of the Roele line, but I fear this might make for an unbalanced realm. Any ideas?

    Another idea I have thought of involves the present ruler being daughter of one of the sisters of Michael Roele, this seventh sister married the Cael ruler a hundred years ago (She would be having the Long Life blood ability) and produced the current ruler. This gives an added flavour to the rather two-sided Avan-Boeruine conlict, without assuming that the present ruler of Caelcorwynn has to become the next empress of Anuire (Indeed practically all the duchies of Anurie have been touched by the Roele bloodline at some point&#33

    The realm is made up of two parts: West Caelcorwynn, containing the capital of Lir Amar, and the eastern part called Forest of a Thousand Leaves. Many of the people are elvenblooded; not Half-elven yet touched by the immortal race (Think the rulers of Dol Amroth in Gondor&#33, as the Erebannien Sidhelien interbred with the Anuireans coming to the island.

    Having the most favouarable climate of all of Anuire, the realm is also know as the Land of Summer; winters never touch the land, and much exotic fruit is exported to nearby realms.

    The present ruler Penduiel Cael is a wizard, who seems to have a good grasp of certain Sidhelien techniques.

    The main religion is, quite unusually, that of Laerme, Goddess of Beauty - the artisans of Caelcorwynn are highly sought after.

    ....anyways....comments???? :huh:

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    Caelcorwyn is an elven name, so if I were to do anything with the island, it would include elves.

    I also think you are adding too many "unique" things to the island it becomes too burdened by them... Elven-touched, long-life sister of roele, heir to the crown, a status similar to Dosiere's, Laerme... it all gets a bit too much for my personal taste.... Choose only a few of those and discard the rest.

    I would keep the elven-touched perhaps, since it could explain why the island has the name of the court wizard of Rhuannach

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    I put a dragon on Caelcorwyn Island in my game, or rather the legend that a dragon lived there. Anyone else who travelled that way, used to vanish, and after a dragon was seen flying over the island it was assumed that it was a lair to the creature and it was killing anyone who set foot on its island.

    As far as the Atlas of Cerilia goes, I would prefer to keep it a fairly mysterious island, with little known about it, rather than a new realm. Mainly because it wasn't mentioned in Ruins of Empire and the Atlas isn't about introducing new material...

    Below is what was writen up as a rough draft for inclusion in the Atlas. This should probably be redone or expanded to fit in somewhere.

    Caelcorwynn Island

    Province Law Temple Guilds Sources
    Caelcorwynn Island (0/7) — — — —

    Abbreviations: None.

    The uninhabited and unclaimed isle of Caelcorwynn lies in the Gulf of Coeranys. Lush, rolling grasslands dominate the island’s northeastern end while a dense, virgin forest occupies the southwestern end of the island. While merchants and pirates of all stripes have occasionally used the island as a base, its remoteness has prohibited anyone from claiming the island as their own. The Anuirean emperors never formally granted anyone a title to the land although it was generally considered to be a part of Anuire. In recent years, there has been talk within the Aerenwean court about claiming the island, though nothing has ever come of this.
    Recently, a number of scouts returned to Calrie after surveying the island. While they reported that the northeastern plains would be an adequate place for civilization, they reported seeing ghosts haunting the southwestern woods and have advised against visiting that part of the island.

    For a time the island was believed to be home to a dragon, and although that beast was driven off nearly a century ago, no one has yet made a claim on the land.
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    Thanks for the input!

    Hmmm...I realise that nothing of what I write is canon, though through a few points I would like to open up to why I have chosen as I have:

    1. Caelcorwynn was not mentioned in canon as being habited no...but that have not stopped people from including it in their games. This is of course their own choice and they have done with it what they desired.

    2. I do not see Caelcorwynn as being "Avanil-gone-Island" meaning that it does not have the influence of the mainland realms. Thus it could have been left out of canon; its rulers simply did not desire to become an active part of mainland politics.

    3. Yes I very much myself like the elvenblooded concept, and would also dearly love to keep it

    4. As goes for the "Far-out stuff" let me come with my comments: A church of Laerme is not impossible. She ahs shrines in the Imperial City, these could be staffed by priests of the Caelcorwynn temple. All the other gods have a presence in Anuire, she is the only one lacking. Giving her a few levels on an island, would not upset game balance, and the powerful haelynite temples would not see this as a threat....it´s a frivolous love goddess (At least to them)
    The bloodline of the Roele is "big", but as mentioned ALL the ducal houses have been touched by the Roele bloodline at some point. The Cael family (Gotta love that name), as presented in my view, were retainers of House Roele like the Dosieres, maybe being Falconers, Exchequers, Court Wizards or what else comes to mind, and having married a daughter off to the Caels every now and then does not seem inappropriate (Especially since it seems the Roele line was VERY prolific&#33
    Besides Long Life blood ability comes in about 20% off all Great Anduiras line (Maybe she was even a True bloodline?) so, a member of House Roele having Long Life would definately not be impossible!

    5. I am at a 50/50 reagarding if the Atlas should present new material...I think that it should explore what has been left unsaid, maybe in a "You can use this if you desire" - a lot of GMs use that approach with canon material as well! For instance I wouldn´t mind seeing some material on the Baerghos ialnds, on the province of Sideath, on the Erebannien elves (Which I thought of touching upon) and on the College of Sorcery´s sources...

    Hmmm more will probably come to mind... B)

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    Nice to see your ideas. Love the idea of Lhaerme getting a place.

    As far as the name Caelcorwynn goes, Cael could be family name and corwynn could be some elven word attached. Like Pennsylvania (penn's woods). Might even rename on of the provinces corwynn.

    My DM placed a maseatian ruin on an isle near Caelcorwynn.

    Quite a bit of new material seems to be sneaking into the Atlas. One of the things that is good about the original works is it leaves much up to the DM to flesh out. One of the bad things about the original work is that it leaves so much for the DM to flesh out. A trade off with making canon material.

    Is there a mechanism in the new Atlas to present things as optional or merely suggestive? Thinking of things like variant rules, sidebars, etc. DMs of course are free to work over their own worlds. But it might be nice to be able to present things which dont have the strength of canon. Perhaps even provide alternate versions of some entries. Provide the caelcorwynn description you have now, and have an alternate that Laerme Pheonix writes up....

    Not trying to make extra work for ya. Just suggesting a way to get around non-canon debates like this. Provide everyone's version and more will be happy. Of course they have to write it up if they want it in...

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    In a message dated 2/15/05 7:05:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

    brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET writes:



    << I am currently, being inspired by this thread, working on Caelcorwynn

    island. >>



    Yours is good. I like that someone other than an awnshegh is shown with

    the Long Life ability. I could see the place having a well-established

    historian community, or at least a famous historian` reputation, as they would have

    had an opportunity to interview someone "who was there." I like "Land of

    Summer."



    I ran the island briefly as ruled by a pirate-wizard-queen (before I got

    HotGB and read about Zweilund Islands). My wife had a lot of fun with her in

    the brief time that campaign ran.



    Lee.

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    Wheeeeeee...supprt for my ideas haha :P

    No seriously though, it is really nice to see both critique and positive comments. Peripheral areas have always been my favourite areas....here I get a chance to open one such area up...

    Lee: I also like somone other than an Awnshegh having the Long Life ability, actually I don´t think I have seen a single regent having it (Maybe Ilien´s wizard rulers?), so giving it to a Roele would just be coooool

    Danip: Laerme has always been an under-used goddess. Since canon goes that trade has risen, wouldn´t there also be money and time for aesthetic pursuits? I say aye...

    I named the Western part West Caelcorwynn, simply put, but not everything needs to have elaborate names....the Eastern part has the more poetic name, so everything equals out hehe

    Actually my fingers are itching to fully immerse myself with this.

    I think that you could say there were alternatives, like the thrad suggests: Some things, such as Caelcorwynn, could be "Use either a desolate island, or an island nation as you choose"....

    Feed me more :unsure:

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    Phoenix- yes laerme could definetly have temple holdings in Anuire. INMC my character is the Duke of Alamie. Ruinil Alam has deposed his uncle Carolan and in having done so is trying to change the general alingment of his people. Part of that was introduing an organized church of Laerme to the people. Ruinil&#39;s wife is the High preistess and she controls about half of the Temples in Alamie, sharing them with the IHH for their assitance in the Liberation of Alamie. Laerme&#39;s faith has also spread throughout Tournen(my character having spent his exile there). I&#39;ve noticed that the faith of Laerme works well in any realm were the arts are a major factor.
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    A little something I wrote about Caelcorwynn´s capital:

    Lir Amar: In the Sidhelien tongue Lir Amar is “Graceful Waters” Situated in a crescent shaped inlet, the city has several islands creating a feel of the Imperial City, even though Lir Amar is not wholly built on islands. The unique architecture of the islands shine through, as the islands´ Sidhelien heritage can not be hidden. Gardens and small groves abound in the city and villas and houses are as frequently built around the trees as in them.

    These treetowers and houses are cosy, inviting and spectacular – and very resistant to normal fires. Often the resident druids and wizards, of which there are some, have shaped the plantlife, so that treebranches have become spiderweb like bridges and walkways, leaves forming to give shelter as roofs, and stairs protrouding from trunks of age old beeches. It should be noted that the vast majority of the trees are not towering giants as in the Elven woods, but rather mediumsized, sturdy trees.

    The rather unusual living areas seem strange to most other Anuireans, while the Sidhelien do not understand why the islanders do not fully live in the trees. Yet the elvenblooded have chosen a hybrid form of living and it suits them fine.
    People hang up windcharms outside their wooden homes, so the seabreezes can create a clear ringing winding through the city every now and then. This makes all parts of the Lir Amar seem alive, also at night, where the ringing lulls the residents to sleep.

    The city´s mayor is Council Leader Keren Cilcobare (MAn; Ro1;Unblooded; NG). The Council Leader is elected every five years, and Keren is currently on his fifth term, having served the realm ably for some 23 years now.

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    I&#39;d still like to know why it&#39;s Caelcorwynn, the same name as the Elven Wizard.

    Also wasn&#39;t there some emperor who fought El-Arrasi by the name of Caercorwynn or something like that?

    Personally I believe that Caelcorwynn carries the name of it&#39;s lord, just like many other realms does that. It&#39;s a hiding place and the home of the Court Wizard of Rhuannach, that he set up for himself, before he fell in love with Fiona.

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