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01-30-2008, 06:26 AM #1
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01-31-2008, 02:27 PM #2
silver", which it would not have been called until after Deismaar, because until then nobody knew what bloodtheft was, much less that this stuff could help. This isn't certain, however, because the boxed text says "or" rather than "which means".
Another thing I've just realized is that the way it's spelled implies to me that the word "tighmaevril" is actually Anuirean rather than Sidhelien. We know from mebhaighl that Sidhelien uses the Irish Celtic "bh = v" rule, but Anuirean is littered with V-words like Vanilen in Avanil. If it were actually a Sidhelien word, I think it would be spelled tighmaebhril.
Adventure idea: can he do anything special if he collects the whole set? I'm reminded of the satanic nuns in the "Seven Swords of Wayland" episode of the 1980's BBC Robin Hood series with Michael Praed, who wanted to collect the whole set of magic swords to summon Lucifer -- the druid tells Robin, "those who seek to shatter the bolts that hold back the evil one must first take Albion [your magic sword] from you." Maybe the Gorgon thinks that if he gets them all in one place and performs the right ritual, he can finally become a god. Maybe the chief priest of the Hand of Azrai thinks that if he gets them all in one place and performs the right ritual, he can bring Azrai back to life. Maybe the Magian or the Raven is also trying to collect them, in order to do something fishy with the Evanescence.
The players' job in any of these cases becomes not to kill the awnsheghlien, but rather to sneak into their heavily-guarded fortresses, steal one or more of the weapons from them, and then hide them away in their own secret and well-protected location. They get to do a dungeon crawl, and then design their own dungeon.
01-31-2008, 03:41 PM #3
Sounds more like a rumour that the Gorgon would put about in order to lure regents in.
The kind of PCs that could succesfully do a "dungeon crawl" in the Battlewaite aren't too common in BR
Besides, surely the original creator (no going to try and spell his stupidly complicated name) would have realised if there was something that special about them? It seems like he just made them as an expirement and they became important later on. Its a bit odd that they'd be all-powerful under those circumstances.
If I was the Gorgon I'd be interested in finding me a smith that could re-forge a few of those medium sized tighmaevril weapons into one big enough for me to wield comfortably. They were made for elves, so presumably they tend towards the daintier side of melee."As soon as war is declared, it will be impossible to hold the poets back. Rhyme is still the most effective drum."
01-31-2008, 10:07 PM #4
Deismaar, when there were no such things as bloodlines to steal. Therefore, whatever their original purpose was, it can't have been bloodtheft. See thread http://www.birthright.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4066 for some ideas.
Cerilia who has even a remote chance of being able to reforge one of them. I think it would require, among other things, a wizard realm spell with very high caster level and source level requirements, and a huge pile of RP to pull off. He is one of the only people who has all of those things. I also seriously doubt he'd ever let anyone else handle tighmaevril anywhere near him, since they have got to be some of the only weapons on the planet which can seriously hurt him.
02-01-2008, 01:30 AM #5
Undead, and Rowan in post #4 he wrote:
Another line of discussion in this Undead thread mentioned an elf lich in the FR, I believe. Ryan replied:
weapon designed to utterly sever a spirit from a body would have the effect of also separating a bloodline from a body as well.
It has to virtue of explaining why the stuff was invented or created in the first place.
To hypothesize a little more, the divinity involved in a bloodline is inherent to Aebrynis rather than the Spirit World (it gets tied to the land). This might imply that when the soul or spirit separates from the physical in Aebrynis and is cast into the Spirit world, the bloodline does not readily go with it. Tighmaevril, then, acts to strengthen the Evanescence, forcing a complete separation between soul and bloodline upon death as it acts as the Sundering barrier between the two worlds.
02-01-2008, 09:53 AM #6
Why would a mage care about closing portals to the Shadow World before it was the Shadow World? It was the Faerie realm at the time the blades were made, wasn't it?
Making a blade out of expiremental materials and then having those materials later be discovered to be useful in a very specific fashion isn't that big a coincidence. Perhaps they were just made out of Tighmevril because it held a nice sheen, or made for a well-balanced weapon, or allowed you to channel touch-attack spells or somesuch.
We have no idea the weapons were even made as a set - they could have been forged hundreds of years apart, for a variety of different reasons. Discovering that collectively they have some powerful ritual effect seems to me to be several orders of magnitude more unlikely.
There are sets of items out there (like the rings of ley) that the elves do care about gathering back up, but they are never mentioned as being particularly bothered about the bloodsilver weapons. To me this implies that they didn't have any particular importance to the elves prior to the advent of bloodlines."As soon as war is declared, it will be impossible to hold the poets back. Rhyme is still the most effective drum."
02-01-2008, 10:00 AM #7
02-01-2008, 10:25 AM #8
Assuming that is the only possible source of undead.
There were still clerics, and I'm sure Azrai's priesthood raised the undead now and again.
There was mention made of the fact that a lot of souls had lost their way because there wasn't a guardian of the dead, and that Nesirie was taking over this duty. Perhaps pre-Diesmar there was less undead because the passage between life and death was better tended to."As soon as war is declared, it will be impossible to hold the poets back. Rhyme is still the most effective drum."
02-01-2008, 05:55 PM #9
I think "Blood Silver" is the original name of the alloy used to make
these weapons because at some (or every) point in the refinement,
processing, forging or finishing of the weapons actual blood was
used. It`s not at all unheard of for warriors to be bled so their
blood can be used to quench weapons as they are being forged, or that
materials (blood, poison) will be actually forged into the weapon as
it is shaped. It also explains why tighmaevril works the way it does
when committing bloodtheft since it could create sort of standard,
sympathetic magic kind of relationship.
02-01-2008, 08:04 PM #10
energy which sustains undead?
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