On Fri, 2003-05-09 at 19:32, irdeggman wrote:
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> irdeggman wrote:
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Originally posted by geeman
>
> That might not be a bad thing if one wanted to develop it somehow as part of
> a campaign. The Lost, for instance, might be quite interesting if they were
> actually defined as descendants of Azrai. It would also allow for the
> creation of new bloodline derivations--Moradin, Laerme and Cuiracaen, for
> example--which could also be a lot of fun to play out. BR purists might
> howl, but there`s no reason why one can`t do it in a homebrew. I, for one,
> would be interested in hearing how such a campaign played out.
> Gary
>
>
> The problem with creating "new bloodlines" is that the god has to "die"
> first. That was how they (bloodlines) were created in the first place, by
> the "total" destruction of the divine being that was its source. Any
> other method of creating new bloodlines would destroy the campaign
> concepts in this regard.

You mean new "derivation". Even the creation of the younger gods,
Cuiraecen, Laerme et al did not create new bloodline derivations.

I don`t think that the destruction of Avani, Erik, Haelyn, Nesirie etc
would create a new derivation. They are not "primal" gods, but
secondary ones. Perhaps the real reason that the secondary gods will not
engage each other is precisely that - destruction would be permanent, as
these gods do not have the ability to pass on their derivation and
portfolios like the elder gods. (Limitations on godly powers is and
always has been a basic tenet of D&D - not to mention most human
legend).

For dwarves, Moradin is a primal god figure. If it were possible that he
were to be discorporated and his essence confined to Aebrynnis and/or
Cerilia in some way then perhaps there would be a new derivation.

Personally, IMC, I already limit bloodlines to humans only. It solves a
great number of petty problems and inconsistencies. The lack of
bloodlines for non-human rulers does not stop them from collecting RP
because I interpret the RP rule as the maximum of bloodline score and
domain power (as does RoE and the other source books).

>
> Now children of the gods and mortals (or even elves?) would be an
> interesting concept and probably could be be worked out using the
> guidelines in Deities and Demigods.

Two complicating factors exist:
(a) The human gods were once (are still? in some way?) themselves human
(B) Bloodlines, inheritance - genetic or otherwise -

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