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    Henry VIII's rather long reign was also a period of tremendous inflation as the American gold and silver started flowing into the country. Especally at the end of the reign, prices can be much higher than at the begining. For adjusting for inflation, I use the price of bread.

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    Henry VIII's rather long reign was also a period of tremendous inflation as the American gold and silver started flowing into the country. Especally at the end of the reign, prices can be much higher than at the begining. For adjusting for inflation, I use the price of bread.
    Yes, I know, but I didn't have that data on hand, however, for the Henry VIII section, I used data from the Holy League period (the wages for the army come from 1513 - similarly, the notes on Ireland come from the Poynings ordnances, which means about 1494, before inflation had the time to kick in). I skipped a whole section because it was after the conquest of Mexico and Peru.

    Otherwise, the undated stuff comes from Henry VII's reign, mostky.
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    Livestock again

    Okay, once again I couldn't find as much time to put into this project as I'd liked too and some parts took a lot longer than anticipated, especially the research. I'm slowly becoming an expert on animal husbandry it seems, in theory that is.

    I have attached a 7-page-pdf file consisting mainly of tables detailing fodder yields, animal weights and requirements and the resulting stock numbers for Pierden's holding. This is probably a bit more detail than some or most of you will ever need, but I hope it'll constitute a viable base to build on.

    So, please tell me what you think, where additional information is needed, how to make the whole more reader-friendly and point out any obvious errors.

    To summarize the results, here's Pierden's stock:

    • Poultry: 11 hens and a rooster, 3 geese, one drake and 5 female ducks are kept throughout the year.
    • Pigs: 3 sows and a gilt (a younger sow) are kept throughout the year. During the autumn mast this rises to 4 sows and 3 porkers/gilts.
    • Winter flock: Pierden maintains 2 Oxen, 2 milk cows (a young one and an older milk cow) and a calf, 3 goats and 2 sheep.
    • Summer flock:Pierden maintains 2 Oxen, 2 milk cows, 1 heifer and 2 calves, 5 goats and 4 kids, 2 ewes and 3 lambs.


    Next, I will calculate the total livestock of the peasants (simply Pierden's stock times eight) and the demesne herd which will include a number of horses, and the male animals used for breeding. The yield in animal products will then follow.

    Btw, Kenneth finally won me over to oxen for a simple reason: The additional fodder (i.e. oats) required by horses seemed too much for Pierden's holding to provide.

    Okay, that's it for now. I'll probably will only find the time to continue posting sometime next week, but I'm looking forward for replies.
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    Ok - who was it that ate the Paladin's destrier.... HMMM come on own up !-someone worked out the Meat yield!!!

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    LOL, I should've guessed that this was the first reaction..

    Still, what's a paladin to do when his men-at-arms are starving in hostile territory....

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    LOL, I should've guessed that this was the first reaction..

    Still, what's a paladin to do when his men-at-arms are starving in hostile territory....
    For a second reaction [flourishes lightly, but heartily] magnificent, I bow to your meticulous details.

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    In a message dated 7/10/2007 11:46:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
    brnetboard@BIRTHRIGHT.NET writes:

    Still, what`s a paladin to do when his men-at-arms are starving in hostile
    territory....


    Eat Sir Robin`s minstrels. (yay, yay)

    Lee.



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    A Possible Source for Data

    Most of the material is between the baroque and the industrial periods (thus, modern), but there's some material that goes from the late medieval to the renaissance in between.

    http://www.iisg.nl/hpw/data.php

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    This data would be good for modeling price fluctuations across time and space, but I don't see much other use for it. What did you have in mind?

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    This data would be good for modeling price fluctuations across time and space, but I don't see much other use for it. What did you have in mind?
    Looking up the italian data now, and the rest later? I'd just taken the time for a cursory look and it seemed somewhat interesting.

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