Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 19
  1. #1
    Moo! Are you happy now? Arjan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Woerden, Netherlands
    Posts
    10,307
    Downloads
    39
    Uploads
    1
    I have been reading Steve Jacksons Illuminati GURPS lately and found many ideas suitable for use in a BR Campaign.

    one of the ideas popped up was DID Roele die in battle with the gorgon, was he really stupid enough to risk an empire, or was this just a trick to leave the scene and rule behind the scenes? Ruling through the Chamberlain which family is still taking that position after many years and the duchies.
    is this why no one did a grab to the Iron Throne?
    every 5 years theres a tournament where most anuirean ruler attent to.... not just to play an have fun...

    might this be a complot?

    IMO there must be dozens of illuminati/Priure de Sion/freemasons or whatever secret organisation in Cerilia.


    has anyone ever thought of something like this?




    A.
    Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Germany near Frankfurt
    Posts
    295
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    In principal I don't like this "x-files" secrets. in my opinion it does not fit in a typical middle age campaign. this illuminati stuff has a different flair also.

    what could be true is something like the "templars". most organisations in a fantasy middle age world should have a religious background, wealth and power should also play a role.
    my purpose is now to lead you into the Pallace where you shall have a clear and delightful view of all those various objects, and scattered excellencies, that lye up and down upon the face of creation, which are only seen by those that go down into the Seas, and by no other....

  3. #3
    Moo! Are you happy now? Arjan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Woerden, Netherlands
    Posts
    10,307
    Downloads
    39
    Uploads
    1
    I did not mean x-files like things, i just meant secret organisations in general.

    the templars and free masons are descended from Prieure de Sion.
    Prieure de Sion has even links to Toth the Atlantean, who ruled Egypt from 50,000 BC till 34,000 BC.

    there always have been secret organisations, dispite their goals and backgrounds.

    the BR setting is well suited for these organisations, all the conspiracy and complots.
    Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

  4. #4
    Site Moderator Ariadne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    near Frankfurt/ Germany
    Posts
    801
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    In my oppinion secret organisations in general might exist. The first I think of is a Belinik order, who can't opperate openly, so he plots in the secret. Eventually some merchant organisations might exist in the secret too.

    In general I don't like campaigns, where plots and betrayal are common methods to rule or dominate a kingdom or holding. May be, it is common in Vosgaard and Brechtür, fewer in Anuire and Rjurik, but I think, it is nearly zero in Khinasi.

    (The plots of Michael Roele's sister where hard enough for me. I don't think, Michael would fall this deep too.)
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Porto Alegre, Brazil
    Posts
    113
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I recently played a Ravenloft campaign in which my character was an "Invisible" (a kit on 2º that I converted to prestige) - someone who works to a secret organization as a spy... While I was making the prestige I thought about using it on Birthright. I'm not sure if this is the way I would play Birthright - in the moment my campaign is not centered in this, but I might change...

  6. #6
    Site Moderator Magian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Thief River Falls, MN
    Posts
    473
    Downloads
    182
    Uploads
    19
    I once played in a game where I was a part of a sercet organization of
    wizards. Basically put, Caine, Arlen Innis, and Toerele Anviras(Talinie)
    all banded together to get rid of the Eyeless One and promote the regents we
    held in favor (power behind the throne). The oath was like a muskateer one
    for all and all for one when it came to defense of sources and attacking
    enemies. Also a guilder got invovled in order to gain magical favors and
    finance our "needs".



    One law,
    One court,
    One allied people,
    One coin,
    and one tax,
    is what I shall bring to Cerillia


    __________________________________________________ _______________
    Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
    http://www.hotmail.com

    ************************************************** **************************
    The Birthright Homepage: http://www.birthright.net
    Birthright-l Archives: http://oracle.wizards.com/archives/birthright-l.html
    To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM
    with UNSUB BIRTHRIGHT-L in the body of the message.
    One law, One court, One allied people, One coin, and one tax, is what I shall bring to Cerilia.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    BR mailing list
    Posts
    1,562
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, arjan wrote:
    > I have been reading Steve Jacksons Illuminati GURPS lately and found
    > many ideas suitable for use in a BR Campaign.
    >
    > one of the ideas popped up was DID Roele die in battle with the
    > gorgon, was he really stupid enough to risk an empire, or was this
    > just a trick to leave the scene and rule behind the scenes? Ruling
    > through the Chamberlain which family is still taking that position
    > after many years and the duchies.
    > is this why no one did a grab to the Iron Throne?
    > every 5 years theres a tournament where most anuirean ruler attent
    > to.... not just to play an have fun...
    >
    > might this be a complot?
    >
    > IMO there must be dozens of illuminati/Priure de Sion/freemasons or
    > whatever secret organisation in Cerilia.
    >
    > has anyone ever thought of something like this?

    I wrote a straight Priory of Sion steal once and posted it to the list,
    featuring Haelyn`s Aegis as the evolution of an order founded to defend
    Haelyn`s wife and infant son after his ascension. They lived on one of
    those islands off the coast of Brosengae for a while, and eventually
    abandoned the complex (which would exist in modern BR as ruins) for the
    mainland.

    I never quite decided what would be better: the wife was present and
    pregnant at Deismaar, and the kid received a direct blast of godsblood,
    developing a Great version of Long Life at puberty. That would make him
    ~15 now in 1524 Haelyn Count.

    The other option was that there should be a line of Haelyn`s descendants,
    who would actually be unblooded since the kid wasn`t at Deismaar.

    I think the Imperial College of Sorcery has nice conspiratorial
    possibilities. There were 10 members, right? Make there be 10 member
    sources, and whoever controls them is a sitting member of the council.
    That puts Aelieles, the Sword Mage, Algondier, Regien, etc all on a panel
    where they can interact and occasionally work together.

    My present campaign features a group, identified by the inscribed steel
    rings they wear, who work together to safeguard Anuire. The Chamberlain,
    Antia Maricoere, Darian Avan, the head of the Fortress (I forget his
    name), Marlae Roesone, and Fhylie the Sword were the regent members. A
    high ranking priest in the OIT (not the regent) is the current master of
    the order.

    This nicely explains to me why Avan hasn`t siezed the Imperial City, why
    several smaller weaker countries and groups haven`t gone under (they`re
    supported by wealthier groups), and gives a nice link up for some plot
    elements. Plus, my PCs have joined as initiate members (you don`t become
    a full Knight unless you rule a realm of some sort), giving them access to
    resources and support, plus assignments and missions.
    --
    Communication is possible only between equals.
    Daniel McSorley- mcsorley@cis.ohio-state.edu

    ************************************************** **************************
    The Birthright Homepage: http://www.birthright.net
    Birthright-l Archives: http://oracle.wizards.com/archives/birthright-l.html
    To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM
    with UNSUB BIRTHRIGHT-L in the body of the message.
    NOTE: Messages posted by Birthright-L are automatically inserted posts originating from the mailing list linked to the forum.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    United Provinces of Ceril
    Posts
    1,028
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    In my campaign there is a secret organization run by one of our players...I can't tell you which one so that all of them might think it is the person sitting next to them during game time.

    The organization is used by different people of different status including religious types to do jobs that no one wants anyone else to know about but need to be done.
    Lord Eldred
    High Councilor of the
    United Provinces of Cerilia
    "May Haelyn bring justice to your realm"

  9. #9
    Senior Member Doyle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Box Hill South, Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    106
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Alert to any of my players, don`t read the following!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "daniel mcsorley" <mcsorley@CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
    > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, arjan wrote:
    > > I have been reading Steve Jacksons Illuminati GURPS lately and found
    > > many ideas suitable for use in a BR Campaign.
    ...<snip>
    > I wrote a straight Priory of Sion steal once and posted it to the list,
    > featuring Haelyn`s Aegis as the evolution of an order founded to defend
    > Haelyn`s wife and infant son after his ascension. They lived on one of
    > those islands off the coast of Brosengae for a while, and eventually
    > abandoned the complex (which would exist in modern BR as ruins) for the
    > mainland....<snip>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    I`m actually using two seperate secret organisations running through the
    Southern Anure / Western Khinasi regions. the first is like a hidden guild
    network, mostly concerned with keeping the status quo, controlling advisors
    to regents, but always being a step removed, but always keeping a great
    store of knowledge. One of the PC`s in the group I`m running is working for
    this mob at its very lowest rankings and is yet to discover it`s real goals.
    The other (other two actually) are based on the above Haelyn`s Aegis
    conspiracy (using unblooded heir variation). Unfortunately for the HA, the
    recently reformed Order of the Sun (see Sword of Roele) has other ideas as
    to how the current heir should be educated and have kidnapped the heir. The
    HA cannot raise a stink without endangering the heir, so a secret war is
    being carried out. Another of the PC`s in my group works knowingly for the
    OS, but has been carefully misinformed of some of the details.

    R.
    Doyle.

    PS: thanx for the plot ideas since I`ve been on the list :-)

    ************************************************** **************************
    The Birthright Homepage: http://www.birthright.net
    Birthright-l Archives: http://oracle.wizards.com/archives/birthright-l.html
    To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM
    with UNSUB BIRTHRIGHT-L in the body of the message.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    United Provinces of Ceril
    Posts
    1,028
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Does anyone consider the Knights of the Silver Crescent an underground organization?
    Lord Eldred
    High Councilor of the
    United Provinces of Cerilia
    &quot;May Haelyn bring justice to your realm&quot;

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
BIRTHRIGHT, DUNGEONS & DRAGONS, D&D, the BIRTHRIGHT logo, and the D&D logo are trademarks owned by Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc., and are used by permission. ©2002-2010 Wizards of the Coast, Inc.