Brosengaen (and some Taeghan history)

[Thomas_Percy]

Under no circumstances does it seem plausible to me that there were exactly 12 political entities that migrated to Cerilia during the Flight from Shadow, then the very same 12 entities fought the Shadow 500 years later, and then mysteriously the same 12 entities ended up with one realm each under Roele...

I agree with Your every single word.
The system allows me to remove a county (even 100.000 city!!!) from the map in one month (maximum 1 season). How to believe that nobody do it from 1500 years?

Another hard to explain thing: The Tribes fled from Aduria in the year of 500 BC because they are opressed by Azrai empire. The counterreaction of Azrai takes place in the 100 BC. What the hell Azrai is doing for 400 years?

[LaeAndril Rayn]

Originally posted by Raesene Andu

And for those who were wondering.

Anwe = Avanil
Gehaiste = Ghieste
Bheallach = Dhalaene
Boru = Boeruine
Duireina = Osoerde
Brosen = Taeghas
Mhora = Mhoried
Elin = Elinie
Elamie = Alamie
Carel = Cariele
Deretha = Diemed
Aeren = Aerenwe

Originally posted by Fearless_Leader
Actually, the Duriena became Taeghas according to those previous discussions... not Osoerde.

If the Duriena became the Taeghans, then who was it that became Osoerde? Also, then what happened to the Brosens? I thought that the Taeghans and the Brosens came from the same stock...

Also, 2nd Ed Birthright Material mentions a few times that Deretha/Diemed is the 5th House of the Andu. If they are the 5th, in what order are all the rest of the Houses? Is Anwe the 1st House?

Does the line of Roele belong to any of these Houses? Anwe? If so, is Haelyn, Raesene, and Roele the ancestors of Avanil?

Just wondering. I'm trying to put together a workable history for my campaign. Thanks for any input.

LaeAndril Rayn

[JosephDouthitt]

I agree with Your every single word.
The system allows me to remove a county (even 100.000 city!!!) from the map in one month (maximum 1 season). How to believe that nobody do it from 1500 years?

Another hard to explain thing: The Tribes fled from Aduria in the year of 500 BC because they are opressed by Azrai empire. The counterreaction of Azrai takes place in the 100 BC. What the hell Azrai is doing for 400 years?

Yes, hearing what the Green Knight said touched a chord with me too!!! Too little changes and a few numbers taking on significance can help galvanize the fantasy element and actually seem special but the same number forcibly superimposed on everything...it's annoying AND I think too often defeats the point of what the Boxed Set tried to do. It's made VERY clear that titles and relative power and size of realms has changed so often since Michael Roele that there is no meaning or correlation between the two (titles and power)...and Duchies allegedly have 12 provinces "or so". But somehow UNDER the Emperor the Duke/Duchess of Brosengae still had only three provinces...

My current most hated silliness are two strange things in Iron Throne (which I finally read and actually liked quite a bit despite the inconsistencies)...that "Western Alamie" is ruled by its own duke at all, let alone a Flaertes, contradicts the whole idea of Tuornen's history to me. And "Rurik Donalls" ruling Talinie could not make less sense! Donalls is a high priestess of a non-hereditary theocracy which came to power after a three century interregnum...if the Donalls had been in power when that mess started I'm sure somebody would have wiped them out during that time but at least if a member of their family became head of the Church half a millennium later they would mention in RoE or PS: Talinie that her family had been the rightful rulers in ages past...

[JosephDouthitt]

Also for Raesene and everyone's list with the authenticky looking names where did those come from?