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    Sorry, guys, I meant to change the subject line of the post there when I
    first focused in on the crossbow issue. Anyway:

    At 06:15 PM 10/7/2002 -0400, Travis Doom wrote:

    >I`m of the opinion that the BR designers snuck in the crossbow rule in
    >an attempt to "correct" the major problem that crossbows had in 2e D&D
    >(basically, that they did not accurately represent the lethality of a
    >crossbow as a weapon). It seems to be to be a very good 2e house rule
    >that made it into print as a campaign rule.

    I agree that that was their intention. I guess the question becomes then,
    "did they go far enough in 3e?"

    I`ve fired a LOT of bows and crossbows in my time, and my personal take on
    the subject is that they certainly improved crossbows in 3e, but they still
    aren`t "realistic" in many regards. One thing that I thought was a good
    addition to the 1e-2e rules was the "point blank" concept that was
    sometimes used. Unfortunately, the rule itself was a little unwieldy for
    practical use when playing out combat, but it was the kernal of a good idea.

    At 12:04 AM 10/8/2002 +0200, Carl Cramer wrote:

    >We let crossbows cause auto-criticals on any threat roll that is also a hit
    >within 30 ft. That way, anyone with a crossbow has at least a 5% chance of
    >inflicting a critical hit - which makes them pretty dangerous militia
    >weapons.

    Now, that`s a very interesting additional rule. I like it. It
    incorporates the aforementioned "point blank" concept but is much easier to
    handle. Kudos.

    >Also, we allow crossbows to scale freely in size. That gives quite a variety
    >of crossbows:
    >
    >Hand crossbow: T: 1d4, S: 1d6, M: 1d8 - short range, one-handed
    >Light crossbow: S: 1d8, M: 2d6, L: 2d8 - medium range, quick to reload
    >Heavy Crossbow: M 1d10, L: 2d6 - long range, slow reload

    What do you mean by those reload times? 1 per round and 1/2 per round per
    the core rules, or is it something else?

    >We also made the Hand Crossbow a martial weapon (at least for Ainureans),
    >and it is qute a common cavalry weapon - check the illustration on the
    >cavalry war cards.

    That seems sensible. Any particular cultures that use the hand crossbow
    other than Anuireans? I`d probably limit it to Anuirean, Brecht and maybe
    the Khinasi, personally.

    Gary

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    Gary <geeman@SOFTHOME.NET> wrote at 02-10-08 00.58:

    > What do you mean by those reload times? 1 per round and 1/2 per round per
    > the core rules, or is it something else?
    >

    Standard reload times

    >> We also made the Hand Crossbow a martial weapon (at least for Ainureans),
    >> and it is qute a common cavalry weapon - check the illustration on the
    >> cavalry war cards.
    >
    > That seems sensible. Any particular cultures that use the hand crossbow
    > other than Anuireans? I`d probably limit it to Anuirean, Brecht and maybe
    > the Khinasi, personally.

    I dedided not to meddle too much with this - I just changed the rule for
    Ainureans.

    Otherwise, I would make the composite bows exotic for all except Vos and
    Khinansi, while hand crossbows would be marital for Brechts and Ainureans.

    I model my Khinansi on Persians, so they use bows only, no crossbows.

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