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    Hi folks,

    Can anyone help me out with the Dungeoncraft article from Dragon magazine
    issue 293? I don`t have the issue, but the article can be found on the
    Dragon website. However, it refers to severel things that are not featured
    on the webpage, but that clearly were originally part of the article. The
    following things are referenced in the article, but are missing on the page:

    Realm Control Sheet
    Population and Resources section
    Encounter Modifiers table
    Discontent Modifiers table

    Could someone perhaps post them here, or otherwise mail them to me? I would
    be ever so grateful.

    Please,

    - the Falcon


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    At 10:25 AM 9/19/2002 +0200, the Falcon wrote:

    >Can you perhaps help me out with the following stuff that`s missing on the
    >web in the Dungeoncraft titled Countrycraft, from Dragon magazine issue 293?

    OK, folks, I`ve found my copy of issue #293. In my esoteric magazine
    filing system, it was wedged between an old copy of Heavy Metal and what I
    think was a copy of Esquire with the cover torn off.... Anyway, here`s the
    material that is apparently missing from the version of the article that
    got reproduced on the Wizards` site:

    >Realm Control Sheet

    This was a little 3/4 page "sheet" much like a character sheet for your
    realm. In it`s "General Information" section was

    Realm Name:
    Realm alignment:
    Wilderness Lore:
    Knowledge (nature):
    Ruler Name:
    Wisdom Score:
    Diplomacy:
    Military Strength:
    Current Discontent:
    Current Hardship:
    Encounter Modifier:

    The "Treasury and Trade" section included

    Current Treasury: __________

    Tax Rate Multiple Population Income
    Low x2,000 __________ ______
    Medium x5,000 __________ ______
    High x10,000 __________ ______

    Trade Realm Road (x2) Income
    ___________ _________ ______

    with seven more blank lines there. Another table was included for "Realm
    Diplomacy" which just had spaces for the name of the realm, it`s alignment
    and the Ill-Will rating towards that nation. Last, and probably most
    importantly on the Realm Control Sheet, was the table for "Population and
    Resources" which might not get reproduced well over email, but I`ll give it
    a shot.

    # of Population Resources
    Terrain Squares Multiplier Population Multiplier Resources
    Plain _______ x12 __________ x1 _________
    Forest _______ x7 __________ x5 _________
    Hill _______ x6 __________ x3 _________
    Mountain _______ x3 __________ x2 _________
    Swamp _______ x1 __________ x0 _________
    Jungle _______ x3 __________ x2 _________
    Desert _______ x1 __________ x0 _________
    Bases _______ x4 __________
    Totals _______ Total __________ Total _________


    >Encounter Modifiers table

    Squares Modifier
    0 -5%
    1 +2%
    2 +4%
    3 +6%
    4 +8%
    5+ +10%

    >Discontent Modifiers table

    Population Modifier
    <= 25 0
    26-50 -1
    51-100 -2
    101-200 -3
    201-500 -4
    501+ -5

    Tax Rate
    Low +2
    Medium 0
    High -5

    There you go. Hope that helps,
    Gary

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    << OK, folks, I`ve found my copy of issue #293. In my esoteric magazine
    filing system, it was wedged between an old copy of Heavy Metal and what I
    think was a copy of Esquire with the cover torn off.... Anyway, here`s the
    material that is apparently missing from the version of the article that
    got reproduced on the Wizards` site:
    *snip*
    There you go. Hope that helps,
    >>

    Thanks, Gary. All the tables got reproduced excellently in my mail program.
    You`ve been a great help and I salute you. :)

    - the Falcon

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    At 10:58 AM 9/20/2002 +0200, the Falcon wrote:

    >Thanks, Gary. All the tables got reproduced excellently in my mail program.

    NP. The formatting looks good in the BR archives and in the text version I
    got back from the list, but the birthright.net message boards don`t seem to
    preserve spaces very well. Many email programs and the archives have a
    problem with tabs. Short of creating a website for posts with tables does
    anyone know of a way to make columns appear that will work for the
    archives, the listserver and the br.net boards?

    Gary

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    Part of the loss of spaces and tabs comes from using a txt format. HTML is
    much better at preserving this kind of stuff, but last time this issue came
    up, too many residents of the etherial plane lacked html capacity.

    Kenneth Gauck
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    On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    > Part of the loss of spaces and tabs comes from using a txt format. HTML is
    > much better at preserving this kind of stuff, but last time this issue came
    > up, too many residents of the etherial plane lacked html capacity.

    I would have said HTML is much *worse* at it. It compresses all
    whitespace of any kind into just a single space unless you mangle the text
    with huge amounts of formatting gobbledygook. As a markup language, it is
    explicitly not for that kind of layout -- hence the introduction of the
    <table> tag. It`s straightforward to write a (very short and simple)
    program to convert text tables to HTML ones, but I for one will continue
    to my dying day to proclaim that if you must choose just one format,
    please please please make it plain text. Thank you, Gary. Well done.


    Ryan Caveney

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    On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 22:08, Kenneth Gauck wrote:

    Part of the loss of spaces and tabs comes from using a txt format. HTML is
    much better at preserving this kind of stuff, but last time this issue came
    up, too many residents of the etherial plane lacked html capacity.

    The only sure way is to pass it around as an attachment in a format that
    will not be interpreted by a mail agent. And then you have to have
    support for attachments in the boards. I think you may have to live with
    the limitations.

    Even tables in HTML can cause problems due to different user agents.
    Some agents (i.e. Browsers and mail programs) can render certain
    (painstakingly set out) text characters as fixed width font types.

    How many out there on the ethereal plane (the net?) have no HTML
    capacity?

    e.g.


    +--------+-------------+
    |regent | Hermann |
    +--------+-------------+


    will work (sometimes pretty and sometimes not so pretty - hopefully as
    you see it now.


    Kenneth Gauck
    kgauck@mchsi.com

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    Originally posted by geeman
    The formatting looks good in the BR archives and in the text version I got back from the list, but the birthright.net message boards don`t seem to preserve spaces very well. Many email programs and the archives have a problem with tabs. Short of creating a website for posts with tables does anyone know of a way to make columns appear that will work for the archives, the listserver and the br.net boards?
    Code:
    I	just   found   out   that   using   the message board tag    &#34;code&#34;     works    fine,
    as you can see. :P
    Or at least for spaces, that is. It unfortunately still reduces each tab to a single space, which isn&#39;t much help.
    <span style='color:darkgray'>&quot;I like to be passionate and sincere, but I also like to have fun and act like a dork... Geeks unite.&quot;
    &#160;</span>&#160;<span style='color:brightgray'>&#160;&#160;—Kurt Cobain</span>

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    I believe we would need to set the list to HTML capable.



    Kenneth Gauck

    kgauck@mchsi.com

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    Originally posted by kgauck@Nov 3 2003, 12:56 AM
    I believe we would need to set the list to HTML capable.
    I don&#39;t really care any longer, &#39;cause I&#39;m not using the list anymore, anyway.

    Ahhh...&#33; Yes, I admit - I plead guilty as charged&#33; I know it&#39;s a mortal sin, but please, Kenneth, do not judge me. Think well of me...
    <span style='color:darkgray'>&quot;I like to be passionate and sincere, but I also like to have fun and act like a dork... Geeks unite.&quot;
    &#160;</span>&#160;<span style='color:brightgray'>&#160;&#160;—Kurt Cobain</span>

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