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    What do you guys think about the interpretation that the Blood Mark ability
    represents the early stage of a character transforming into an ershegh? I
    ask because I`ve always thought that ability was a little mild, and now
    that I`m fiddling around with a new system of defining and developing blood
    abilities it occurred to me that such a transformation could simply be
    "rolled into" a description of the Blood Trait ability.

    By way of support for the idea, there aren`t a lot of ersheghlien running
    around. Certainly not many in comparison to the number of
    awnsheghlien. Even if the corrupting nature of Azrai`s bloodline leads
    itself more easily to the concept of transformative effects, the ratio of
    bloodlines (6:1) and number of scions of other derivations around would
    seem to manifest more ersheghlien than there are. Blood Mark as the early
    stages of transformation would certainly even out those numbers a
    bit. Further, because ersheghlien transformation is voluntary rather than
    the forced change of awnsheghlien those characters who have the ability now
    could remain at their current level of transformation, requiring no change
    in the actual characters themselves.

    It would, however, represent a pretty dramatic shift in the potential
    changes of those characters. I would also hate to speculate what the
    dragon birthmark of Prince Avan indicates he will eventually transform into
    (if he chose) or the horror of Bouruine`s red hair and beard eventually
    turning him into some giant, auburn tribble.... ;)

    Gary

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    On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Gary wrote:

    > ersheghlien transformation is voluntary rather than
    > the forced change of awnsheghlien

    I think this by itself is enough to explain the discrepancy in numbers,
    especially when combined with the general Cerilian attitude of "What? The
    regent just turned into a strange nonhuman magical beastie? He must be an
    evil awnshegh -- kill him immediately!"

    > the horror of Bouruine`s red hair and beard eventually
    > turning him into some giant, auburn tribble.... ;)

    Why is this image alone not enough to dissuade you forever? =)


    Ryan Caveney

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    Originally posted by geeman

    What do you guys think about the interpretation that the Blood Mark ability represents the early stage of a character transforming into an ershegh?
    I don't think the blood ability is too mild, but I like your idea. Scions with a bloodmark are always rumored to be chosen to some greater deed...
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Birthright Roleplaying Game Discussion
    > [mailto:BIRTHRIGHT-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM]On Behalf Of Gary

    > What do you guys think about the interpretation that the Blood
    > Mark ability
    > represents the early stage of a character transforming into an ershegh? I
    > ask because I`ve always thought that ability was a little mild, and now
    > that I`m fiddling around with a new system of defining and
    > developing blood
    > abilities it occurred to me that such a transformation could simply be
    > "rolled into" a description of the Blood Trait ability.
    I really like this idea. It takes what is kind of a silly idea, or at least
    a toss-off and expands it in a way that really connects with the setting.
    Cool. I am really looking forward to your expanded-progression blood
    abilities; I think the system is going to work nicely. Auburn tribbles
    regardless.

    Mark V.

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    I see blood mark as the first step towards Divine Aura.

    /Carl

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    At 05:28 PM 3/26/2003 -0500, Ryan Caveney wrote:

    > > ersheghlien transformation is voluntary rather than
    > > the forced change of awnsheghlien
    >
    >I think this by itself is enough to explain the discrepancy in numbers,
    >especially when combined with the general Cerilian attitude of "What? The
    >regent just turned into a strange nonhuman magical beastie? He must be an
    >evil awnshegh -- kill him immediately!"

    True. It does kind of lead one to wonder about the nature of the blood
    ability. That is, do ersheghlien know what their transformation will bring
    and, therefore, choose whether or not to go that way or is it something
    they have no idea about, but choose because it is part of their nature.

    Blood marks as the opening stages of a transformation into ersheghlien
    form, however, would still go a long way to explaining why not a lot of
    scions choose to take advantage of that ability. That is, because they
    have no desire to actually shift away dramatically from their human form.

    > > the horror of Bouruine`s red hair and beard eventually
    > > turning him into some giant, auburn tribble.... ;)
    >
    >Why is this image alone not enough to dissuade you forever? =)

    I have to admit I`m horrified... yet strangely fascinated by the possibility.

    Gary

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    At 08:33 AM 3/27/2003 +0100, Carl wrote:

    >I see blood mark as the first step towards Divine Aura.

    That`s a possibility. They have similar effects. Though the description
    of Divine Aura mentions Bloodmark specifically, I kind of get the
    impression they are different functions. Divine Aura being more intangible
    and Blood Mark being more transformative. I haven`t tangled with either
    description yet, so we`ll have to see what happens when it gets right down
    to it.

    Gary

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    I have actually played with Bloodmark as the Minor version of Divine Aura.
    It works. But so could other variants.

    Like others here, I tried to put all blood powers into the spectrum of
    minor/major/great, and this seemed to be thenatural combination.

    /Carl

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    > At 08:33 AM 3/27/2003 +0100, Carl wrote:
    >
    > >I see blood mark as the first step towards Divine Aura.
    >
    > That`s a possibility. They have similar effects. Though the description
    > of Divine Aura mentions Bloodmark specifically, I kind of get the
    > impression they are different functions. Divine Aura being more
    intangible
    > and Blood Mark being more transformative. I haven`t tangled with either
    > description yet, so we`ll have to see what happens when it gets right down
    > to it.
    >
    > Gary
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    At 07:16 PM 3/26/2003 -0600, Mark Vandermeulen wrote:

    >I am really looking forward to your expanded-progression blood abilities;
    >I think the system is going to work nicely. Auburn tribbles regardless.

    I should be able to get a rough draft finished in a week or so. I tend to
    over-estimate my productivity a bit, however, so it could take longer than
    that. I`ve about a dozen blood abilities yet to write up, but they seem to
    mostly be the longer ones.

    Gary

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    I see Blood Mark as being closer to Blood History and to a lesser degree
    Divine Aura than I do Blood Trait or anything transformative.

    Kenneth Gauck
    kgauck@mchsi.com

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