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From: c558382@showme.missouri.edu
To: birthright@MPGN.COM
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - circular vassalage


> your cases 1 and 3 are the same, as are cases 2 and 5. Case 1)
>Andrew is only a prince in the sence that he is son of Queen E.

Not really, perhaps the use of Andrew was a bad example, but as I don't
know too much about Royalty, I couldn't think of anything better..or added
the statement "who is heir to the throne" to the end of 3.

> Should Charles succeed, he will only be the Duke of York, and the
>only princes in Britain will be William and Harry.

Maybe we should ask someone in alt.talk.royalty about that, I thought
Andrew would always be referred to as Prince Andrew...but I'm no
expert, just using my dictionary and eyclopedia..

>Case 2) A male monarch & ruler of a small state do not differ in practice.

I'd say they do, as one doesn't follow from the other...and wasn't the
husband of Queen Victoria called Prince something or other, not sure
if that wasn't a pre-nuptial title though..


>There's a good web page on this, _A Glossary of European Noble, Princely,
>Royal, and Imperial Titles_, its at
>http://econ10.econ.jhu.edu/heraldry/topics/odegard/titlefaq.htm
>There is a 20 pg document that is very useful.


Couldn't access the site, and 20 pages is really too extensive, I'm not
particulary
interested in the aspects of Nobility, and in any case this is really not
related to the
SubjectLine anymore, as the princes in your original statement were not
above
the Count of whatchamacallit..