Ranking Of Titles

[Osprey]

[QUOTE]A simpler, but still historically accurate system, would be to reduce things to "Duke, Count, Baron" in which a Duke is a noble who holds from the king and has other nobles holding from him; a Count holds from the king but has NO noble vassals, and a Baron is a noble who holds from a Duke.

-I actually think this is a good basis for an Imperial system, at least in (a version of) its historical reality. Adding the "modifications" like Archduke, Prince, etc. would be later additions to the basic system, for reasons discussed above (Imperial bloodlines, extra prestige, etc.).

And I do appreciate the clarifications on the historical basis of noble titles. Always good to learn.
-Osprey

[kgauck]

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From: "Michael Romes" <Archmage@T-ONLINE.DE>

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:22 AM





> Wasn´t there a Grand Duke (Großherzog) of Luxembourg? With that

> vast area of land under his control even Illien could claim that title..

.:-)



Luxemburg became a grand duchy after the recess of 1803, when a vast wave of

title inflation swept the empire. A much larger county of Luxemburg had

existed from the post Carolingian period (963) to 1353, when Charles of

Luxemburg, fourth Emperor of that name, made his home county a duchy. And

so it remained until 1803. The northern border of medieval Luxemburg

extended from Maastricht to Rethel. Most of Luxemburg is now part of

Belgium.



Kenneth Gauck

kgauck@mchsi.com