the Falcon wrote:

> The one PC wizard IMC wants to create source holdings on the isle of
> Caelcorwynn as well as on Albiele Island.

Note that these two islands have remained unsettled for over a five hundred years.
There has to be a reason for this (For example: The isle of Talme off Ilien is
unsettled because it is volcanic rock, which sucks for farming). Pirates? Shadow
world portal?

> Both islands are well within
> 150 miles of his sources in the Erebannien, so he could forge a ley line
> to them. Since both Caelcorwynn and Albiele both aren't provinces and
> thus are quite untouched by civilization, I'd say he could probably
> establish a source on both of em and eventually rule those sources to
> level 9, provided someone doesn't do a create province on them in the
> meanwhile and rule down the magic ratings.

I'd personally keep the source value at its terrain max (5 for plains, etc) and not
grant it any bonuses. After all, a province (0) has so few people it doesn't even
effect the land. As for creating holdings in a "nonexsistent" province, the rules
are blank. Technically, you can only create holdings in established provinces. It
makes no sence to me (well, for source holdings at least). I would allow my wizard
to treat the province as a level 0 for purposes of creating source holdings, but
there would be no extra benefits.

>
> But what are the limits on establishing "overseas" holdings? I mean, can
> anyone from coastlands of Anuire just create a holding in Mieres?

Why not? I would limit the range of overseas holdings by, say, ten to twenty sea
areas. The reasoning for this is that the regent would need to transfer money and
workers by boat in several trips.

> Or in
> any other coastal province for that matter? Come to that, the Rulebook
> doesn't even give limits for creating holdings in landlocked realms. If I
> were to take the rules literally, regents could only create holdings in
> those provinces where they already or of which they are ruler.

I don't follow you here...

> Also, the
> Rulebook say that creating a province that isn't adjacent to any of the
> provinces you already own, costs thrice as much as normal. However, it
> doesn't state what's "normal".

Yes it does. Normal is 1 GB, so an overseas or noadjacent province costs 3 GB.
The Base Cost for Create Holding is 1 GB. This applies to both forms (Create
Holding and Create Province). I would say that a scion doing create holding to
make a province would treat it as adjacent, and thus need 1 GB. On his next turn
he could rule it to level 1 (which costs no RP) then he'd start getting a regency
pool. Later he could create another province next to his current one for 1 GB or
one on a nearby island for 3 GB.

>
> So, as you can see, I'm desperately looking for advice. Please feel free
> to give any.