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    Wouldn't Caliph be more appropriate?

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    Ayatollah is Iranian version of Islamic Mufti title, and it is similar to Ayazada Khinasi title, so i found it more appropriate.
    Last edited by cccpxepoj; 09-09-2008 at 12:20 PM.

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    Thumbs up mufti vs. ayatollah

    Quote Originally Posted by cccpxepoj View Post
    Ayatollah is Iranian version of Islamic Mufti title, and it is similar to Ayazada Khinasi title, so i found it more appropriate.
    I agree and think "mufti" cold be far better
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    Quote Originally Posted by cccpxepoj View Post
    Ayatollah is Iranian version of Islamic Mufti title, and it is similar to Ayazada Khinasi title, so i found it more appropriate.
    I would use Caliph for a political leader

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    well Ayatollah is religious title not political

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    Quote Originally Posted by cccpxepoj View Post
    well Ayatollah is religious title not political

    Well, recent events over the last few decades have suggested that the line is blurred - and given Ayatollah somewhat negative connotations in the west. I'd go for Mufti, or consider an invented title instead.

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    i really didn't know that, in Balkans Muslims use term Mufti, it has the same meaning as Ayatollah and as i said it is similar to Ayazada, but if its bothering people please change it to any other title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTall View Post
    Well, recent events over the last few decades have suggested that the line is blurred - and given Ayatollah somewhat negative connotations in the west. I'd go for Mufti, or consider an invented title instead.
    Our Western misconceptions should be no reason not to ascribe a neutral term from another culture to a Birthright culture. Ayatu-llah means sign of God, so why not use Ayatu'avani or Ayatavani, which would mean sign of avani.
    Last edited by Sir Tiamat; 09-12-2008 at 04:32 AM.

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    Aya'vani ?

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    Let's distinguish between a culture and a religion. Using Arabic or Persian words is fine, because it helps establish some of the flavor of the Khinasi. But words too associated with the Muslim religion will actually be confusing because Avani is not Allah. The Khinasi are not arabs, but authentic words can still be evocative. I think in matters of religion, it can cross the line and be confusing.

    Ayatavani or Aya'vani both look good, though.

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