The Spider

**irdeggman** · 05-13-2004, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Ariadne@May 13 2004, 04:24 AM

I did not completely understand the bloodline list listed at the end of the spider description. Is it just for information or to weak the spider based on campagne?

That was to show the build based on the other file attached - the awnshegh using UA bloodlines type of format.

Examples generally work real well in this type of thing, especially for those that want to build their own ansheghlien.

**Ariadne** · 05-14-2004, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by irdeggman+May 13 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (irdeggman @ May 13 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ariadne@May 13 2004, 04:24 AM

I did not completely understand the bloodline list listed at the end of the spider description. Is it just for information or to weak the spider based on campagne?

That was to show the build based on the other file attached - the awnshegh using UA bloodlines type of format.

Examples generally work real well in this type of thing, especially for those that want to build their own ansheghlien. [/b][/quote]
Now I understand...

**tcharazazel** · 05-14-2004, 02:58 PM

Just curious are you going to be making an ehrsheghlien class also? Figured it would basically be the same just changing the +2 intimidate and -2 diplomacy/bluff for each level in the class.

You don't really need to put in the Level Adj. for the awnshegh class as its the same as the level in the class.

**irdeggman** · 05-14-2004, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by tcharazazel@May 14 2004, 09:58 AM
Just curious are you going to be making an ehrsheghlien class also? Figured it would basically be the same just changing the +2 intimidate and -2 diplomacy/bluff for each level in the class.

You don't really need to put in the Level Adj. for the awnshegh class as its the same as the level in the class.

I was thinking about it for the ersheghlien, they need a little adjusting because they are not the same as the awnsheglien. Ershegh transformation is voluntary while awnshegh transformation is not and in general they are not quite as powerful.

The level adjustment for awnshegh was in addition to the class level. This is because the abilities gained by their transformation causes a greater effect than a class level. The UA system used the bloodline class as a means of balancing the level adjustment being gained as the recipient gained character levels, the amount and type of increases that an awnsheglien gains per character level are greater than the UA version hence a greater net level adjustment.

The acid test question to see if this system works is to look at the Spider as worked up and say does the CR look about right? If so then the mechanic works, at least in this case.