Okay - here are my rules, if I`

[geeman]

Mathieu Roy wrote:

> Sindre Berg wrote:
>
> > I also feel rather strong about this. I don't really see the problem with
> > lots of lurkers on this list, it is the same with lots of other lists too
> > and they don't do any harm. So the idea of removing lurkers after half a
> > year I find strange.
>
> Neither do I. I personally mostly lurk, in good part because I don't have an
> active BR campaign at the moment (PBeM excepted). I presume there are many,
> many lurkers who are in the same position -- but they may well turn into active
> posters once they do. Furthermore, don't forget that not all list activity
> occurs on the list. A visible lurker might be commenting directly to the
> authors of those posts he enjoys or dislikes. He is making a valuable
> contribution, but not one that shows up on the mailing list, and therefore, he
> would end up being "disintegrated".

One other point on the lurker issue....

I'm a frustrated writer type, emphasis on *frustrated*. What's that got to do with
anything? Well, I rather LIKE the idea that more than twelve people out there are
reading this stuff. I mean, if I didn't want a few hundred people to read what I
write I wouldn't bother writing email to a list. I'd just subject my friends to
additional pages of my ranting and raving. Now, this is purely egotistical
nonsense, I recognize, but the facts remain that if there weren't many people out
there reading this stuff, I'd be quite a bit less motivated to contribute it. If
you send email in the forest, boys and girls, and no one is there to download it,
then not only doesn't it make a sound, but it barely even sends a few ions flying
down the phone lines.

In short, my friends, lurkers are a GOOD thing. Even if they don't contribute
themselves, their very presence here makes those of us who crave attention and
self-validation through expressing our opinions much more likely to spend some time
writing this stuff, and that's exactly the point in having this list in the first
diddle-dang place....

Gary
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[Dave Lebert]

Jim Cooper wrote:

>
>
> Am I to take charge on only 5% of the consensus of this list? I will be
> very uncomfortable taking on this role as administrator if I know that
> the other 95% just don't give a damn about what I do with this list. I
> figured that, if I went WAYYY out in psycho limbo I would get *some*
> kind of reaction outta y'all, but sheesh! Its like talking to a brick
> wall! I bet I could've said anything and gotten the same response!
>

This is typical of most mailing lists


>
>
> Pay particular attention to the wording in the intro and to Rule #8 -
> that is the one I feel particularly strong about. It only makes sense,
> guys and gals, at least to me. I would like to keep people like (for
> instance) Ian around in this forum, and this is a sure fire way to keep
> them here.
>
>
> saved YOU _hours_ of your time with their post? If you can't do even
> this, the administrator wonders why you wish to participate in a forum
> such as this - this is a DISCUSSION mailing list after all ...
> contributors find the time, and they are just as busy as you are. The
> administrator feels particularly passionate about this rule, and rest
> assured the administrator will be prowling the membership periodically
> (bi-annually) to see who is being active on this list. Members the
> administrator deems to be 'non-active' will be treated like they way
> they act - contribute nothing at all, get nothing at all in return.
> This translates into losing your membership in this forum. Its that
> simple, and don't think you deserve any better if you are a non-active
> member. If all you want to do is read, get the digest mode of this
> forum.
>

This is the completely WRONG attitude. You say you want to help revive
Birthright. Well you are not going to do that by alienating the few hundred
people who care enough about to actually sign up for the mailing list and read
the messages.

As for getting the digest mode, I have tried that in the past and find them
extremely annoying since many people still insist on postin in HTML. Also, it
is impossible to delete a thread you are uninterested in with the digest mode.

If a vote is taken you will not get mine since I think you will end up driving
more people away from Birthright than you bring in with your "enlightened"
administration.

Dave Lebert
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