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[Bannier Andien]

At 09:19 AM 10/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> I agree with the need for
>> a book about guilds, as well as the effect they would have on the
>> kingdoms
>> economy. Ie: Wouldn't having a weapons guild in a city make
>> weapons
>> cheaper, and thus have cheaper recruiting costs for military
>> units.
>
>That's not how it always works; sometimes countries reserve most of
>their products for export. For years there were multi-year waiting
>lists to get nice cars in West (note, *NOT* East) Germany for example.
>So if a country's main source of guild income was the weapons trade it
>might actually be MORE expensive to buy those weapons there than over in
>the next kingdom.
>

I also agree that it would be a good idea for a guild book. Explain more
about each of the holdings. Source-Book of Mage Craft and Temple-Book of
Priests have been done do a Book of Law and a Book of Trading. I play
Bannier Andien in Ian's PBeM Game and I keep getting slammed because I
destroy the land. Well tell me how TSR says that I can not do that and
still make money. Explain the Guilds and thier functions alittle more. As
to COST of goods, I make everyone pay top dollar, my wares are worth every
gold crown. ;-)

Bryon

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Well the Question is still out there is he or isn't he?

I still say that we should play nice. Will they continue to say those nasty
words...
"TO ALL I SHOUT: I'm Not A Twirp, I say again, I'm not" ;-)

[Sepsis]

Greetings,
I have yet another item to add to the growing "wishlist." How about a book
that details the various orders of Paladins in BR. Just wanted to throw in
another 2GBs.


Sepsis, richt@metrolink.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

BR Netbook: http://webpages.metrolink.net/~veleda/birth.html

[Cymbelline]

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Sepsis wrote:

> Greetings,
> All this talk about the BoP brought another "wishlist" item to mind.
> How
> about a Book of Druidcraft? So much of Rjurik life centers around
> these
> unique Priests that I believe they deserve a little more attention.

There is quite a fair amount of information regarding Druids in the
Rjurk Highlands campaign expansion, and I am sure there will be a fair
bit more in the Book of Priestcraft under "Erik". At least, I hope
there will be. : )

Regards,
Cymbelline.


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Sepsis wrote:
Greetings,
All this talk about the BoP brought another "wishlist" item to mind.
How
about a Book of Druidcraft? So much of Rjurik life centers around these
unique Priests that I believe they deserve a little more attention.
There is quite a fair amount of information regarding Druids in the Rjurk
Highlands campaign expansion, and I am sure there will be a fair bit more
in the Book of Priestcraft under "Erik".   At least, I hope
there will be.  : )

Regards,
Cymbelline.
 

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[Lee]

Well, I suppose that I would be interested in books for guilders and
soldiers similar to Magecraft and Priestcraft "Books of." Book of
Guildcraft, Book of Warcraft.
Leaving the Shadow World vague seems just fine to me. It keeps it
threatening.
Filling in the underground might be interesting. Correct me if I am wrong,
but there are no orog domains. Are they running their own underground world?
Are they just unblooded and cannot become regents? What/Who else is down
there, if anybody?


My 2 GB.

Lee.

[Darkstar]

LeeHa1854@aol.com wrote:
>
> Well, I suppose that I would be interested in books for guilders and
> soldiers similar to Magecraft and Priestcraft "Books of." Book of
> Guildcraft, Book of Warcraft.

Perhaps both could be done in the one book, after all there is not as
much information that is needed for Warriors or Guilders. I would like
to see a better war system though, and maybe rules for running wars
quicker.

> Leaving the Shadow World vague seems just fine to me. It keeps it
> threatening.

Personally I would like to see more about the shadow world. New monsters
etc would be nice as well. In one of the novels (Hag's Contract?) there
is a bit where a mage summons up these nasty snakes from the shadow
world. More on thing like that would be nice.

> Filling in the underground might be interesting. Correct me if I am wrong,
> but there are no orog domains. Are they running their own underground world?
> Are they just unblooded and cannot become regents? What/Who else is down
> there, if anybody?

There are at least two Orog domains. (Blood Skull Barony, and the Iron
Hand Tribes. There is probably more but it is too late at night to go
looking through my bookcase.
It would be nice to have a book on Birthright Humanoids though,
something that described the culture, lifestyle, etc of Goblins, Orogs,
Gnolls, Elves, Dwarves, Halflings, and the other races. Perhaps even a
book on all the human races as well, without all the domain info.

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Ian Hoskins

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From the Darkness we came.
And to the Darkness we will return.

[Ed Stark]

At 02:44 PM 10/3/97 -0300, you wrote:
> One thing that we might like would be a book that is a compilation
>of all the domain sourcebooks.
>
Not a bad idea. It might be possible to release a group of sourcebooks
(maybe some old and even some new) in the future, rather than just single
domain packs.

What's everyone think?
Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

[Ed Stark]

At 09:19 AM 10/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Well, I suppose that I would be interested in books for guilders and
>soldiers similar to Magecraft and Priestcraft "Books of." Book of
>Guildcraft, Book of Warcraft.

I don't suppose you'll be surprised when I say we're more than just
considering this ...

> Leaving the Shadow World vague seems just fine to me. It keeps it
>threatening.

But what about a little adventure, with a little source material mixed in?

> Filling in the underground might be interesting. Correct me if I am wrong,
>but there are no orog domains. Are they running their own underground world?
> Are they just unblooded and cannot become regents? What/Who else is down
>there, if anybody?
>
While it might not be near enough for you, I think you'll like some of the
stuff in TRIBES OF THE HEARTLESS WASTES.

Ed Stark
Game Designer, Wizards of the Coast/TSR Division
Asst. Brand Manager, BIRTHRIGHT/GREYHAWK/MARVEL Group
TSR Website: http://www.tsrinc.com

[Eric Beaudoin]

At 16:09 1997.10.05 -0700, Ed Stark wrote:
>At 02:44 PM 10/3/97 -0300, you wrote:
>> One thing that we might like would be a book that is a compilation
>>of all the domain sourcebooks.
>>
>Not a bad idea. It might be possible to release a group of sourcebooks
>(maybe some old and even some new) in the future, rather than just single
>domain packs.
>
>What's everyone think?

My two cents: the domain player's secrets are one of a few thing that can be bought and used by players (you wouldn't your players to read Ruins of Empire for example). When a player is assigned a domain, it is a good thing for him to get the domain secrets but you don't want to allow him access to the other domains secrets.

A bunch of domain sourcebooks in one pack become a DM only tool. If you decide to do it that way, at least make the information for each domain separate in the bundle so you can hand over only a part of it to a player. I would like to see new domain and even revision of the existing ones but I would prefer they stay separate.

It might also be better for the Birthright setting. There is usually (and hopefully) more players than DM so if stuff is produce than can be bought by players, you may end up selling more of it. The bigger the sales, the more likely is this setting to thrive.

Just my 2 cents
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Eric Beaudoin
Groupe conseil DMR inc.
(514) 877-3301

[Bryan Ruther]

> >...a compilation of all the domain sourcebooks.
> >
> Not a bad idea. It might be possible to release a group of sourcebooks
> (maybe some old and even some new) in the future, rather than just single
> domain packs.
>
> What's everyone think?
> Ed Stark

Compilations of Domain source books would be cool, the current sourcebooks
leave me with mixed feelings.

The current books seem to be written with the intent of being given to a PC
regent of the domain (which does bring up another point, how about source
books for domains like guild or temple holding structures). However in all
the domain books I have read, there is a lot of information that I would
rather the ruler not have. The source books give away too many secrets of
the domain, there are many things which are outright given away in the source
books that I would rather have the PCs try to figure out on their own with
perhaps hints of what is really going on. (I hesitate to mention specifics,
one
or two of my players subscribe to this list and as a hint to them, don't
believe
everything you read). However in other places information is clearly given
from
a particular NPCs point of view rather than information supplied impartially.

If there will be compilations of domain source books, I would like to see them
more specifically directed at the player or DM.

Bryan

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Mankind being originally equals in the order of creation,
the equality could only be destroyed by some subsequent
circumstance...
Thomas Paine, Common Sense

[voelkman]

Hi folks

I'd like to see something like a "Historic battlebook" containing several
scenarios
to use those warcards. My players would like to get more practice in
fighting and other friends of mine just want to battle each other using
warcards (Like small version of battletech which is much too
expensive)...
O.K. I could do this myself, but there is always the historical
background missing :-(

Best

Manni