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    Orginally posted by Ariadne

    Orginally posted by geeman

    Many people found a hammer and a sickle attractive as a symbol....
    Do they? In my oppinion only commoners with the smith profession ;)
    I was thinking about taking up the hammer and sickle as my new holy symbol... That'd go over well wouldn't it?? ;)
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    This would slap two flies with one clap! But where do you put your sword holy symbol of Haelyn? May be you can put a sword and a hammer around your neck (this would be realy good) ;)
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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    At 06:25 PM 7/31/2002 +0200, Ariadne wrote:

    >But where do you put your sword holy symbol of Haelyn?

    The proper placement of a sword holy symbol is in the guts of an unbeliever.

    Gary

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    Orginally posted by geeman

    At 06:25 PM 7/31/2002 +0200, Ariadne wrote:

    >But where do you put your sword holy symbol of Haelyn?

    The proper placement of a sword holy symbol is in the guts of an unbeliever.

    Gary

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    HAHAHA!!!

    "What? Your a non believer? *slice* I think I just heard him calling your name!"
    "What do you mean my alignment just went to evil and my gods stripped me of everything? I did it for them damn it!"
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    Orginally posted by Ariadne

    This would slap two flies with one clap! But where do you put your sword holy symbol of Haelyn?
    You know what, you are the first person that has ever asked me that! I never thought about it!! hmmmmm.....
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    Orginally posted by Azrai

    ...if it makes for a great storyline and makes the game really fun.
    You can make the game fun AND realistic if you do not SERVE to different gods but if you just TEACH the dogma of both gods. to me it seems more like personal gaining (more domain powers) than fun. you haven't explained the exact details of memorizing, just curious.

    I would never play in any campaign you run because I would hate to have to memorize every single rule of the PHB and have to interrupt play every 10 seconds
    As I said before: I 'am open minded with house-rules I am no rule lawyer. but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two different gods at one time.

    by the way, could it be that Lord Eldred is your Game Master and you lulled him with a nice dwarven charm spell ;)







    It really was my idea.

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    Orginally posted by A_dark

    But I still have my arguments.

    For crying outloud, Moradin's symbol is the anvil and hammer, you know many people that would find that attractive? Dwarves would but humans? nah

    Likewise the underground dwelling dwarves would find the sun on haelyn's symbol something strange for a god to have on his symbol....

    But ultimately it is your DM's choice I suppose. I just spoke my mind cos basically we were asked to speak our minds and if your DM was so sure about it, he would not really seek advice, would he? :)
    Since I am the DM in question, I would like it on the record that I never asked anyones opinion on this idea. I NEVER SEEKED OUT ADVICE. It was Queen Emerald who wanted to know if anyone role played this type of situation to get some role playing tips. As soon as I saw the post I knew a bunch of people would argue against it. I don't really care if someone thinks it should or shouldn't be done as long as the people in my campaign are ok with it.

    As for the symbol, I would put the anvil in the center of a sunburst with a sword and hammer criss crossed in front of it. The dwarves would think that the sun represents fire and that through the use of an anvil and hammer the sword is made possible. I am really not sure why someone said humans don't like hammers and anvils.
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    Orginally posted by Peter Lubke

    On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 00:19, Gary wrote:

    At 03:58 PM 7/29/2002 +0200, Azrai wrote:

    >As I said before: I `am open minded with house-rules I am no rule lawyer.
    >but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two
    >different gods at one time.

    I do it all the time. Sometimes I throw in a couple saints and dead
    relatives into the mix at which I direct my prayers, just to keep things

    But how many answer ? - that`s the real crux of the problem.

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    I would argue that is because you and I were brought up in a primarily monotheistic world. In the last 15 years of your game play no one thought about it because the whole concept is foreign to them. However, in ancient times there was a polytheistic world where the clerics in some cases would invoke the names of whatever god was the most appropriate for the situation at the time. Clerics were holymen that served all of the spiritual needs of the people no matter which god that meant.

    Even if it weren't true...it just took you 15 years to see someone wanted to play that way. If it took you 15 years to have some one want to fight with a two-handed sword, would you be so freaked out?
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    I know many humans that work all day in mines and enjoy it. I know many humans who like to cut and polish stones. I know many humans who like to wear those cut and polished stones. FOR THOSE WHO SAY HUMANS WOULDN'T LIKE THE VALUES THAT MORADIN STANDS FOR I SAY BAH!

    Not that I really care or anything.
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    Orginally posted by geeman
    The proper placement of a sword holy symbol is in the guts of an unbeliever.
    I am an unbeliever! I'm priestess of Haelyns son. I respect Haelyn, but I don't serve him...
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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