Serving 2 deities

[Emerald Greybeard]

Orginally posted by Azrai

Again, that all depends on the DM and how he chooses to handle the rules governing his world.

No, this is a wrong way to handle things. the principle game mechanics should not be changed in the game.
otherwise we would have axt-swinging magic users with free weapon specialisations or green elephants with sorcerer power.

nothing against house-rules if they make sense or if they are a nice addition to the game.

If I would be moradin and you are praying to other gods i would strip the hell out of you...

Your killing me here. You need to dig out the first D&D rulebook and every PHB following that, look at teh beginning where it says these are GUIDELINES and the other part where it says to modify these rules to fit your needs. So I say to you again,

NO, this is absolutly NOT the WRONG way to handle things. This is the way WE handle it and we happen to to like it. I would never play in any campaign you run because I would hate to have to memorize every single rule of the PHB and have to interrupt play every 10 seconds to verify a rule.

I used to play with a DM that had no premade adventure, never had a DM's guide at teh table, and didn't allow PHB's during gameplay. He winged the entire adventure and made it up as we went. If someone disputed something, it was usually handled with a good reason WHY it was or was not. If a rule didn't fit, he either disregarded it or changed it. We had alot of fun.

Please explain to me why you feel that we are wrong. And quoting the rules and saying "because it clearly states..." because that's not answering my question. Without quoting any rules or refering to any rulebooks or guides, tell me why we cannot bend the rules to allow my character to play having 2 deities if it makes for a great storyline and makes the game really fun.

I don't have a PHB with me right now because I am at work, but I will follow up with the exact verbage and page that I refered to about tailoring the rules to fit your needs, which is one of the first rules and has carried over from edition to edition along with with the first and most important rule in the game, have fun.

[Azrai]

...if it makes for a great storyline and makes the game really fun.

You can make the game fun AND realistic if you do not SERVE to different gods but if you just TEACH the dogma of both gods. to me it seems more like personal gaining (more domain powers) than fun. you haven't explained the exact details of memorizing, just curious.

I would never play in any campaign you run because I would hate to have to memorize every single rule of the PHB and have to interrupt play every 10 seconds

As I said before: I 'am open minded with house-rules I am no rule lawyer. but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two different gods at one time.

by the way, could it be that Lord Eldred is your Game Master and you lulled him with a nice dwarven charm spell ;)

[geeman]

At 03:58 PM 7/29/2002 +0200, Azrai wrote:

>As I said before: I `am open minded with house-rules I am no rule lawyer.
>but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two
>different gods at one time.

I do it all the time. Sometimes I throw in a couple saints and dead
relatives into the mix at which I direct my prayers, just to keep things
lively.

Gary

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[Emerald Greybeard]

Orginally posted by Azrai

by the way, could it be that Lord Eldred is your Game Master and you lulled him with a nice dwarven charm spell ;)

Ssshhhhhh... I didn't tell him about that..... :)

Orginally posted by Azrai

To me it seems more like personal gaining (more domain powers) than fun. you haven't explained the exact details of memorizing, just curious.

ok, fair enough, I didn't explain what I did with the domain powers. I only have the domain that they both share with my Cleric class. I also have the War priest class and only have 2 domains from that. If I were to take all domains from everything, I would have powers from something like 6 domains. Instead, I only have the 3. I only have the domains that the 2 gods share and not any of the domains they have seperatly. I only have the spells, nothing of the abilities each one grants. I don't have any of my information handy right now, but I didn't just assume all the benefits of serving a god. I didn't think that would be reasonable or fair. So yes, there was a trade-off for it.

for example, as she gains levels in her Warpriest class, she gets to draw from all these extra domains like domination, War, and good and such. Well, Moradin and Healyn share Good and War, but not Domination. I think Haelyn has Domination but not Moradin so I don't use Domination but I do draw from Good and War. Now that info may be totally wrong, since I don't have any info in front of me, but it still makes the point.

The other thing is that I think Haelyn grants his clerics Holy Smite once a day or something along those lines, again, I don't have that ability.

Please don't rip me apart if I bungled all the spells and abilities up, I am going off bad memory and little caffeine.

Since we limited my available domains and no special abilities, My prayer time is not increased all that significantly. I only pray for spells in the shared domains. I don't have to worry about praying for special abilities and individual domain powers.

[Azrai]

Ok, maybe this is fair enough. :)

[A_dark]

But I still have my arguments.

For crying outloud, Moradin's symbol is the anvil and hammer, you know many people that would find that attractive? Dwarves would but humans? nah

Likewise the underground dwelling dwarves would find the sun on haelyn's symbol something strange for a god to have on his symbol....

But ultimately it is your DM's choice I suppose. I just spoke my mind cos basically we were asked to speak our minds and if your DM was so sure about it, he would not really seek advice, would he? :)

[Peter Lubke]

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 00:19, Gary wrote:

At 03:58 PM 7/29/2002 +0200, Azrai wrote:

>As I said before: I `am open minded with house-rules I am no rule lawyer.
>but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two
>different gods at one time.

I do it all the time. Sometimes I throw in a couple saints and dead
relatives into the mix at which I direct my prayers, just to keep things

But how many answer ? - that`s the real crux of the problem.

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[geeman]

At 12:08 AM 7/30/2002 +0200, A_dark wrote:

>For crying outloud, Moradin`s symbol is the anvil and hammer, you know
>many people that would find that attractive? Dwarves would but humans? nah

Many people found a hammer and a sickle attractive as a symbol....

Gary

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[geeman]

At 10:38 AM 7/30/2002 +1000, Peter Lubke wrote:

> >As I said before: I `am open minded with house-rules I am no rule
> lawyer.
> >but in 15 years of gaming I never met anyone who wanted to pray to two
> >different gods at one time.
>
> I do it all the time. Sometimes I throw in a couple saints and dead
> relatives into the mix at which I direct my prayers, just to keep things
>
>But how many answer ? - that`s the real crux of the problem.

Usually the same number of gods/saints/dead relatives answer my polytarget
prayers as answer my monotarget prayers....

Gary

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[Ariadne]

Orginally posted by geeman

Many people found a hammer and a sickle attractive as a symbol....

Do they? In my oppinion only commoners with the smith profession ;)