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    The Cold Rider in the Shadow World is beleived to be Azari, or at least his soul, but again no one knows for sure
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    but even if it is his shadow , or esence, or whatever, would, it be much more powerfull? with all his worshipers on the adura contenent, he would have a Huge powerbase.

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    If the Cold Rider is Azrai we may all be doomed!
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    Why would the Cold Rider have to be all of Azrai?
    In my view he is only an aspect of Azrai, that retreated to and is trapped in the Shadoworld after Deismar.
    Worshippers from Aduria would have no effect, as they worship the ancient aspect of Azrai, God of Emperors and Emperor of Gods, not some wasted Shadow in a parallel realm...
    I'm not even sure if the Cold Rider IMC should think that he was Azrai himself but rather his heir... Perhaps Azrai can be reformed (as is bound to happen at some point IMC) but only after many rituals and the reunion (and probably sacrifice) of many recipients of his bloodline (I'm sure most Awnshegh wouldn't submit willingly...).
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    I dont see why the gorgon would allow a force in his domain that would promote the resurection of a dead god that would have power over him. The cold rider is a good idea for a benefactor for Azrai's preists, but as a main power in the shadow world wouldn't he be more powerful? does anyone know his avatar statas

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    On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, marcum uth mather wrote:
    > I dont see why the gorgon would allow a force in his domain that
    > would promote the resurection of a dead god that would have power over
    > him. The cold rider is a good idea for a benefactor for Azrai`s
    > preists, but as a main power in the shadow world wouldn`t he be more
    > powerful? does anyone know his avatar statas

    No, the Cold Rider was never statted in any book I know of. I don`t think
    he has an avatar, though. He`s either a powerful awnshegh (doubtful), or
    it was strongly hinted that he is a remnant of Azrai. I`d say he`s about
    demigod status, physically in the shadow world, like Iuz in Greyhawk. No
    avatar.
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    IMC, the "Hand of Azrai" temple in the Gorgon`s Crown is not referring
    to worshiping Azrai, but instead worshiping the Gorgon as "the hand of
    Azrai". I understand that in the books the "Hand of Azrai" is the
    unblooded female priestess that runs the temple, but I changed that :)
    IMC, the Gorgon does not want Azrai to come back, he wants to replace
    him and Belenik/Kriesha. He is in fact going to be helping my
    soon-to-be-epic elevl PC`s defeat the Cold Rider from taking over the
    world (the PC`s have been played for almost 15 game years now, and I`m
    going to end it with a epic-level "save the world" campaign).

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    > I dont see why the gorgon would allow a force in his domain that would promote the resurection of a dead god that would have power over him. The cold rider is a good idea for a benefactor for Azrai`s preists, but as a main power in the shadow world wouldn`t he be more powerful? does anyone know his avatar statas
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    So does any one have any good states in mind for the cold rider? how about spheres and wepons allowed for his priests

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    marcum uth mather <brnetboard@TUARHIEVEL.ORG> wrote at 02-09-10 02.11:

    > marcum uth mather wrote:
    > So does any one have any good states in mind for the cold rider? how about
    > spheres and wepons allowed for his priests
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    I use Darkness, Evil, Travel, Trickery for spheres. Weapons have no
    restrictions, but neither is the War domain available, so few will use other
    than basic weapons.

    My Darkness domain can be found at :
    http://my.homeip.net/abbe/DnD/magic/domain...s/darkness.html

    As to his actual goodhood, I think he is the ghost of a god, and lika most
    ghosts he is not really sentient, just single-mindedly persistant in doing
    what he does. If this really qualifies him as a god is doubtful, but he has
    access to the POWERS of a god, anyway.

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    Azrai and the Cold Rider aren't the same!!!

    In our campaign The Cold Rider was based on the Greyhawk demipower Vecna.


    Orginally posted by Birthright-L

    He is in fact going to be helping my soon-to-be-epic elevl PC`s defeat the Cold Rider from taking over the world (the PC`s have been played for almost 15 game years now, and I`m going to end it with a epic-level "save the world" campaign).
    That's funny. In one of our last campaigns we defeated the cold rider already in a epic-level adventure (a pity, that those who survived stopped adventuring after that)...
    May Khirdai always bless your sword and his lightning struck your enemies!

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