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    were do the powers of a preist of Azrai come from? Is it a combined element of the Vos Gods, or does it come from somewere else. the whole reasone i ask is i dont know how the "hand of Azrai" gets its spells.

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    were do the powers of a preist of Azrai come from? Is it a combined element of the Vos Gods, or does it come from somewere else. the whole reasone i ask is i dont know how the "hand of Azrai" gets its spells.
    Quite possibly one of Azrai's descendents is granting the power for some purpose (maybe just the thrill of be called Azrai).

    Another possible explanation is that the Gorgon, like the Serpant, has the power to grant spellsto his followers.

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    > marcum uth mather wrote:
    > were do the powers of a preist of Azrai come from? Is it a
    > combined element of the Vos Gods, or does it come from
    > somewere else. the whole reasone i ask is i dont know how the
    > "hand of Azrai" gets its spells.
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    I think the Gorgon is demi-god and grants spells to his priests.

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    At 05:15 AM 7/22/2002 +0200, Bearcat wrote:

    >Another possible explanation is that the Gorgon, like the Serpant, has the
    >power to grant spellsto his followers.

    I don`t think an actual god is really required to grant 1st through 3rd
    (maybe 4th) level spells, since 4th, 5th 6th, and 7th level and above
    spells were "granted" by demigods, lesser, intermediate (if one had that
    category IYC) and greater gods, respectively. In 3e divine spells are 1st
    through 9th level, so one could up the number of spells that priests can
    learn without a specific deity to grant them from 1st through 5th or, as is
    suggested by the 3e Deities and Demigods and several 2e sources, a specific
    god need not necessarily be worshipped at all in order for a priest to get
    spells. BR has "specialty priests" that worship particular gods and get
    special abilities, but the priests of the Serpent, the Hand of Azrai or
    whatever could be generic "clerics" gaining their spellcasting powers and
    choosing their domains based on a generalized concept.

    Gary

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    In my opinion the clerics of the "hand of Azrai" get their spells from Belinik, not from the Gorgon.
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    I would have to agree with Ariadne, there is no reason to make an Awnsheg have the ability to grant spells when there are two gods descending from Azrai. Either Kriesha or Belinik. I have read some other theories that Azrai didn't completely die. Either way they could get spells. Even if they believed they were worshiping Azrai, Kriesha or Belinik may answer the call.
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    Actually, the Gorgon is specifically not a god. It says so in his description. He would have become one if he did not covet the Iron Throne so much. This desrire keeps him in the realm of mortals and prevents him from becoming a god.

    I would give them spells from both Belinik and Kriesha.

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    i agree the gorgon is not a demi-god( he is already powerfull anyway without that tacked on;) But if the vos gods are taking credit for AZRAI spells, then wouldn't they be higher in the pantheon? the entier southern contenent was under Azrai's sway. having the backing of all thoes worsipers would catapult them to greater status.

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    Or does that lend credence to the argument that Azrai was not totally destroyed?
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    If Azrai is still somehow around wouldn,t he be more noticebale. he wasen't known for being subserviant. he wanted power. the southern empiers in Adura all worshiped him. so he still has the fuel for godhood. Plus i dont like the fact that all the old gods died and still didn' kill him

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