the emperor returns!!!

[marcum uth mather]

what would it take in all your learned minds for the chamberlin to say a regent is emperor? if you held all the hearlands would that be enough, or would it require more. what new and exiting things would the emperor get that a person who only controlled MOST of anure would't

[Denakhan]

...what would it take? That's easy! It would take the chamberlin to say "you are Emporer", the support of the population of all controled lands, the support of all the regeants under your control. Oh, and the deities (all of them) blessing. ;)

The population has to "go along with it". Lot's of ways to accomplish this; being generous, just, fair and all that stuff would help.

The regeants have to, basically, be "out of the picture". Kinda like driving a motercycle; only one person can do it at a time. ;) Controling, and thusly being tied to, the land in BR is an all-or-nothing thing. So, either conquering or having them give it up.

The deities who are not worshiped by the new Emporer might have a say in it. I'm doubtful that the Evil (or Good, as the case may be) deities might find it difficult to opperate if the Emporer started outlawing (or "discouraging by force") the worship of other deities.

That's my guess anyway.

[Lord Eldred]

First and foremost you would have to show the Chamberlain that you have some claim to the throne. Some of the major named regents can do that already. You would also have to show that your claim is greater than all others. I think you show that in different ways...

1. All the regents in the land declare that you are the rightful heir.

2. The people all support you.

3. A god says it is so.

4. You take over everything through military force.

I don't think that you need all of the above to make it happen.

Once you have it...I believe there is bonus regency involved and a bunch more headaches...

[soudhadies]

I think that one major bonus to the reign of any one designated by the chamberlain would be legitimacy, which is crucial to any government. A regent who crowned himself emperor after conquering most of Anuire would face opposition from almost all sides if the chamberlain refused to designate him. Especially (diabolical grin) if the chamberlain pointed to someone else as the legitimate heir to the Iron throne.

[corvus]

Heh, thats when the truly bold leader steps up to the plate, declares the
Anuirean Empire dead and gone, and announces the formation of a new Empire
based on his authority. To back this up, he could contact those who are in
the lower rungs of the current anuirean system and offer them higher places
in the new system. Works everytime.... except for when it doesn`t.

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>Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:06:08 +0200
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>Bearcat wrote:
> I think that one major bonus to the reign of any one designated by the
>chamberlain would be legitimacy, which is crucial to any government. A
>regent who crowned himself emperor after conquering most of Anuire would
>face opposition from almost all sides if the chamberlain refused to
>designate him. Especially (diabolical grin) if the chamberlain pointed to
>someone else as the legitimate heir to the Iron throne.
>
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[Peter Lubke]

On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 16:06, brnetboard@TUARHIEVEL.ORG wrote:

Bearcat wrote:
I think that one major bonus to the reign of any one designated by the chamberlain would be legitimacy, which is crucial to any government. A regent who crowned himself emperor after conquering most of Anuire would face opposition from almost all sides if the chamberlain refused to designate him. Especially (diabolical grin) if the chamberlain pointed to someone else as the legitimate heir to the Iron throne.

Plus of course, the chamberlain would cede the rulership of the Imperial
City -- which could be significant itself.

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[Lord Eldred]

Just have the Chamberlain killed and frame your main enemy to taking the thrown!

[Kappenkriaucheran]

Well, in the Chamberlain´s eyes the new Emperor would have to be lawful good, judging from his views about the Boeruines and Avans (both are lawful neutral). And the would-be-Emperor should ideally be related to the Roeles. As for godly approval he´d only need the blessing of Haelyn IMO.
The only qualified person that comes to my mind is Michael Mhoried; he´s LG, and one of his ancestors had an illegitimate child with an Emperor of Anuire shortly after Mhoried was incorporated into the Anuirean Empire (according to the BR timeline; that´s what I call diplomacy :) ). He´s certainly got tough opposition though (Avanil, Boeruine, Ghoere, the Gorgon). I wonder why he´s called Michael. Probably just a coincidence ;) .

Recovering the lost sielsheighlien of the Crowns of Anuire might also be helpful :) .

[Lord Eldred]

It is probably not a coincidence. Especially if he was born under Michael Roele reign. It was not uncommon to give children the names of the king and queen.

Maybe I missed something or had a brain freeze but what is the lost sielsheighlien of the Crowns of Anuire?

[Lord Grave]

>
>
> Lord Eldred wrote:
> It is probably not a coincidence. Especially if he was born
> under Michael Roele reign. It was not uncommon to give
> children the names of the king and queen.
>
> Maybe I missed something or had a brain freeze but what is
> the lost sielsheighlien of the Crowns of Anuire?
>

They are the gems which enhance your Bloodline. Lots of them were
embeded in Emperor`s Crown, but were all lost.

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