[ADnD2e] Investiture Realm Spell

[Delazar]

If a Regent wants to Invest a province that he has conquered, does he have to be physically present in that region (together with the Priest/Paladin performing the Investiture)?

Also, the priest that performs the investiture, does he need a Temple(1) in the province he wants to invest?

[Retillin]

If I recall correctly then yes. It has to be cast in the realm you are investing and there is supposed to be a Temple 1 of the faith of the priest casting the spell.

That being said, I'd allow for there to not be a Temple 1 in the Giantdowns (I think that is where you were running it). If the priest could gather a large enough following in the location the spell (get a 100/1000 followers) is to be cast I'd let it slide without a physical temple being there.

[Delazar]

yes, my main issue is the Giantdowns...

but in general, if you need to have a Temple(1) in a province you want to invest, how do you ever Invest any Province(0)?

[Magian]

Investiture is covered in the Priestcraft book pgs 74-80ish. Requirments is that the ceremony take place in the province if a province. In or near the holding if a holding. Only 1 needs to be at the location either the caster or the soon to be invested. The temple 1 holding requirement is only to cast the spell along with 1GB. I don't think the temple needs to be in the province in question.

I hope that helps. If you don't have the book of priestcraft I highly recommend it. The most important supplement to Birthright imo and I don't like priests.

[Delazar]

I do have the BoP... I'll have to check out those pages, but I'm away from my books right now (also re-learning the game after 12 years of 3.5 + 4E...)

You seem to be making a distinction between "the ceremony" and "casting the spell". Are they not one and the same?

Or, the ceremony is performed by the "soon-to-be-invested" in the province to be invested, and the spell is cast in a nearby province by the priest?

[Magian]

I myself have been out of the game for a number of years but have always been Birthright-centric in my gaming using it to compare to other games.

I think as far as the ceremony goes its one and the same as far as game mechanics, but for semantics it can be separated. Even in the realm spell description it uses that word. I was just using it cause it was the word used in the BoP. If there is a significant distinction I'm sure its in that book.