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    How can a 2nd edition blooded wizard be a Diviner?

    The Chamberlain is a listed as diviner, but that is not an allowable specialization for true wizards. True wizards may not specialize in illusion or divination, according to 2nd edition rules.

    Was there ever 2nd edition errata for TSR3100?
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    Unblooded humans could not become wizards in the BR books, but I don't know of a bar on a blooded human becoming a magician (or in this case diviner). To me the real question is 'why avoid true magic when you have the ability?'

    Given his position, and the clear 'family trade' approach that the Chamberlain's family takes it might be some social issue, or recognition that to the family divination was the crucial magical art - evocation, necromancy, etc being of relatively rare use in a debating chamber...

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    He is a major NPC. Rules are always broken for them. I wouldn't take him as a good example of a classic BR mage.

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    Remember that Traderic/Caliedhe Dosiere is a former magician who gained instant True Magic at Deismaar (assuming the ubiquitous immortal Chamberlain hypothesis). If any blooded wizard is going to be a diviner, a former magician would qualify.

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    The Chamberlain is a listed as diviner, but that is not an allowable specialization for true wizards. True wizards may not specialize in illusion or divination, according to 2nd edition rules.

    Was there ever 2nd edition errata for TSR3100?
    Well there is the fact that according to the Book of Magecraft that Greater Divination is one of the favoured schools for Anuireans (since on p5 it states that specialists usually practice in the favoured schools the possibility of Anuirean Diviners is open), and also listed is Divination as an unlikely choice for those of Khinasi origin. It's also not listed as being shunned by any race. If it's not unlikely or shunned then it'll be a not unreasonable option, merely a call by each GM as to how it'll fit in their campaign.

    Illusion is favoured by Elves and therefore similarly opens the way for Elven Illusionists. It's unlikely for Anuireans & Brechts, and shunned by Khinasi. As above if neither unlikely nor shunned it is plausible too.

    TSR did in cases say that the rule with the later production date was the correct one when they differed, If accepted in this case it's the BoM that takes precedence about schools and not that given in the Rulebook. So the known Anuirean Diviner is no longer an aberration.

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    When it comes to the Chamberlain being a diviner, I`d suggest there`s
    one primary reason: he`s supposed to be an NPC. I don`t think they
    wanted to make him tempting as a character for players to take
    over. His role should be to give out adventures and advice to PCs
    (and supposedly the Emperor) so making him a more active character
    class would be problematic. Why shouldn`t he just rule himself if
    he`s something more viable as a regent?

    Gary

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