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    Battle cards

    Hello everybody,
    Just checking my Birthight box, which I bought used : the cover says there are 112 battle cards ; but the rulebook refers to some "battle cards" used for resolving the melee. I can't found them.
    Perhaps this was treated in another thread ; just asking...
    Thanks a lot, regards, etc. And kudos for the site !
    Syl

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    You are correct. You are not the first to post about missing warcards (cf. http://www.birthright.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1031). We don't have copies of them here, but the BRCS does have statistics for military units (http://www.birthright.net/brwiki/ind...Military_units) and some warcards (http://www.birthright.net/brwiki/ind...Military_Units) .

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    If you bought it online, maybe the reseller didn't know what he was selling very well and that's why he didn't realize the warcards were missing (that happened to me with the Rjurik Highlands and the Birthright Boxed Set on Amazon).

    You should check with him, you can maybe get a small refund or return the item (those were the posibilities both sellers offered to me).

    Regards,

    Vicente

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    Thanks a lot for the answers, guys !
    Actually, I'm not too fond of the mass combat system, as it is presented in the rulebook, but I wanted to give it a try, and that's where I realized the bloody nine battle cards were missing.

    So, I assume that nobody has a scan of those nine cards... That's fine, so much for the original system, I will make one of my own ; perhaps there is a thread about homemade BR battesystem other than d20/OGL ?

    As for a refund, I bought it online ages ago, for nothing ; as a lazy gamer, I won't bother myself.

    Anyhoo, thanks a lot again !
    Regards

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    For battles you can check Gary recently posted "War & Conquest" system:

    http://www.birthright.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5097

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    SylvestrePicard wrote:

    >Actually, I`m not too fond of the mass combat system, as it is
    >presented in the rulebook, but I wanted to give it a try, and that`s
    >where I realized the bloody nine battle cards were missing.

    At 03:16 AM 9/23/2009, Vicente wrote:

    >For battles you can check Gary recently posted "War & Conquest" system:

    Hey! A plug! Nice....

    SylvestrePicard: IMO, you`re not really missing much when it comes to
    the warcards. They`ve been one of my biggest pet peeves about the
    setting ever since I first picked it up. The units themselves are
    fun in that they act as a sort of flavour text (Knights of X, Ogres
    of the Stonecrow Mts, etc.) but as a sub-game the warcard system
    isn`t very sensible and, worse, it`s a little dull. At least, that
    was my experience with them. As a sub-game of the BR domain rules
    they are more than a little awkward. Of course, you should give `em
    a shot if you`re interested, or if you`re a
    collector/perfectionist/anal-retentive-gamer-type (like me) but if
    you`re missing a few I honestly don`t think you should worry too much about it.

    Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicente View Post
    For battles you can check Gary recently posted "War & Conquest" system:
    Thanks, I'll give it a look !

    Quote Originally Posted by Birthright-L View Post
    Of course, you should give `em
    a shot if you`re interested, or if you`re a
    collector/perfectionist/anal-retentive-gamer-type (like me) but if
    you`re missing a few I honestly don`t think you should worry too much about it.
    Actually, I am. Aren't we all ?

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    I did scan all of the warcards intact in their perforated pages a long time ago. I think they are in huge image files from the scanner so they'd be bulky sends. If you want I can start going through my discs to find them. Not sure how long it'll take. I never posted them online cause I was unsure if the copyright police would come knockin' on my door.

    Originally I scanned them incase my many sets of the warcards were lost or damaged due to wear and tear. It should be a simple sizing the image to a single page and print out easily.

    I was not a fan of the system. I am following Gary's work that he has on the above mentioned thread. Download his .pdf its a very nice piece of work.
    One law, One court, One allied people, One coin, and one tax, is what I shall bring to Cerilia.

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    At 11:30 AM 9/23/2009, Magian wrote:

    >I did scan all of the warcards intact in their perforated pages a
    >long time ago. I think they are in huge image files from the
    >scanner so they`d be bulky sends. If you want I can start going
    >through my discs to find them. Not sure how long it`ll take. I
    >never posted them online cause I was unsure if the copyright police
    >would come knockin` on my door.

    Posting scans of all the warcards sounds like a pretty clear
    copyright violation... though at this point it wouldn`t really do
    anyone any harm if examined objectively. Of course, copyright
    doesn`t always make sense. You could post a few here and there and
    justify that as fair use, but the whole kit and kaboodle would be a
    problem. The warcards were one of those little extras that many
    gaming companies go ahead and say you can copy, but I don`t recall
    TSR/WotC giving any such permission.

    Would anyone happen to have all the stats of the warcards in plain
    text format? That is, just the titles and stats on the
    cards? Posting that information would be much closer to the white
    side of this gray area. Besides, I`m currently working on a
    supplement to _War and Conquest_ that has stats for the unusual
    and/or unique warcards in the setting. That is, the various knights,
    strange units, spawn of awnsheghlien, etc. If anyone has all of them
    in one place that`d be a big help, as I`d not have to go through a
    stack of the warcards....

    Thanks,
    Gary

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    It looks like I have 69 scans totaling 182 mb in size. I think they are all of the cards including terrain and all. Also looks like a complete map of Cerilia scan too.


    I looked for a units list with stats and only found some old pbem pages I saved for possible rule adaptions. Mostly were extra unit descriptions and how they are affected by the domain rules.

    edit: Wow I just found a pdf with the battlemap and it also appears a pdf for everything else. I am going to have to put this disc in a vault of some kind.
    Last edited by Magian; 09-24-2009 at 07:06 AM.
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