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07-15-2009, 11:44 PM #41
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I agree that this would be more realistic, but would this not imply a large costs in playability for a rather small gain in realism? A level 5 holding will continue to be more effective (localy) than 5 level 1 holdings, but do we also need to represent this in the scores?
I think that the "difficulty" here is that you are pushing for a domain level score and then trying to use that for domain level actions.
While nice for "color", in practice I don't think this will prove very useful.
Most actions are not performed at the domain level but rather at the province or specific holding level.
While keeping scores at the province level exponentially increases the difficulty (e.g., booking) of your system it is actually essential to game play.
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For instance what is the true contribution the loyalty, mobilization and size of a law holding 3 provinces away has when one is defending an attack a law holding in a different location?
I think if you focus on individual provinces first, then a system to roll them up to represent the domain will be much easier.
BR is by it's very nature a book keeping nightmare and I don't really see a way that easily eliminates that aspect fo the game. The best we can hope for is a system that can be arranged to make automatic calculations easier (e.g., something that lends itself to spreadsheets or something similar).
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07-15-2009, 11:49 PM #42
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IMO yes they do.
For one it is "cheaper" both in GB and RP to perform a smaller action than a larger one. What I mean is that to focus on a single holding than on an entire domain. If it becomes just as easy to do whole domain level actions then that is what everyone will do and IMO it "cheapens" the game a lot.
For another by making domain level actions this reduces the ability to expand one's domain. Now instead of targetting a single holding you are going against an entire domain.
Also by accounting at the province level things like various degrees of loyalty can be better represented. Effects of troop occupation, great captain random events snd things like that all have much easier manner of being represented and handled.
Is it really? The level of Book keeping is a major issue in Birthright, perhaps even the biggest issue with the setting. Though fun for some, most of us tend to struggle finding fellow players that do not get tired of the birthright book keeping really fast.
Since the AD&D version of BR computers have come a very long way so that almost everyone has one and spreadsheets and databases are extremely common place.
So very many people play similar PC games where they have to keep track of their "resources" also that I don't think this is as big a deal as it once was.
This is offcourse little. I think one might make a case that these scores represent the average of the domain and are then modifieed at the province level providing a + to defences.
which IMO would probably mean extensive book keeping.Duane Eggert
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