Commoners and Bloodtheft

[Lawgiver]

Riegan Swordwraith: You are comparing apples to kiwi. You are talking about to differnet things.

Investiture generally requires the transfer of more than a bloodline. Its a transfer of ties to the land. The other problem is that investiture attempts to keep both parties alive. It doesn't involve the snatching of ones life or the release of energy that would accompany a regent's death.

[Lord Eldred]

Lawgiver: I think you misunderstand Riegan. Riegan is saying one is apples and the other is kiwi. One should allow commoners to become blooded and the other one should not short of some powerful wish spell. And I am not sure Riegan even believes that should make a commoner be able to benefit from bloodtheft.

[Lawgiver]

Oh well. I guess I'll just go eat a banana and drop this fruity debate.

[Riegan Swordwraith]

I think you may be forgetting that Rogr Ilien was a commoner who was invested with his bloodline.

I beleive that a commoner can become Blooded through Investiture.He can become it through Bloodtheft but only with a Wish spell,proerly worded.Which basically means that no,I would make it nearly impossible for a commoner to become Blooded through Bloodtheft.

[Lawgiver]

What if the bloodline itself didn't want to be destroyed... Since the bloodline is tied to a divine essence, maybe it wills itself to live on. If a commoner were to kill a regent and not be filled the bloodline itself would die out. It may want to indwell the commonoer simply for survival...

[Riegan Swordwraith]

So a Bloodline is sentient????

That just opens up a whole new can of worms.

All that I am saying,that in my game,a commoner cannot become Blooded through simple Bloodtheft.There has to be some extenuating(sp??) circumstances for it to happen.I do see your line of thinking though Lawgiver and Eldred,it does make me think,but I just do not agree with it.

[Lawgiver]

forgive the pun, but I was just fishing for ideas...

[Lord Eldred]

Hey, Lawgiver, I thought you were going to drop this fruity debate ;)

I think the concept that the bloodline does not wish to die out is an interesting one but then would it only occur when a commoner kills the last of the bloodline and would the commoner instead of getting five point get all the points?

Should we keep fishing? :P

[Lawgiver]

I finished the banana... perhaps there is something else I could eat....

I just figured I'd stir the pot a little and give you boys something else to think/debate about...

[Arch-Sorcerer Gargamel]

I voted for commoners being able to become blooded through bloodtheft.
The divine energy that is a blood line has a connection to the land. This connection to the land gives regents a connection to the people as well. The way he can manipulate the power of his blood to affect large groups of people shows that the land could also be connected to the people.
That's the reasoning I've used