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03-20-2009, 06:08 PM #1
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General 4th BR discussion
Wasn´t sure where to publish this, so I made a new thread.
Well, I have been following the excerpts from the upcoming D&D 4th PHB 2. And someting certainly caught my attention.
Core and plain D&D 4th edition is aiming to create a general-broad-scoping-anything fits kind of fantasy setting. But not to force you to use it all. Instead, I feel they are giving us solid rules for fantasy RPG, for the players and DMs to choose what to use and what not.
Take the Devas for example... I can´t imagine fitting them anywhere on Birthright, nor on many other fantasy settings. Same happens with Goliaths, or some of the classes. But a lot of new material is great and will help us push our game and setting forward.
My point is: we should not be afraid of letting core D&D 4th elements out if we feel they have no place in this setting. But on the other hand, we should keep an open mind to this new, fresh elements, that might bring new life to BR. All settings evolve (some too dramatically like Forgotten realms). I see no reason why we could not let a certain race or class if it is good and fun for the game. And arguing "it was not on BR 2nd Edition" is not enough in my opinion, just as forcing old mechanics in the game like the detect evil from the halfling. I hope that whatever we do with the conversion keeps this in mind.
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03-20-2009, 07:20 PM #2
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sword and crown
has anybody converted it to 3rd or 4th edition?
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03-20-2009, 07:32 PM #3
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Not yet, but the conversion is on its way judging by the forums.
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03-20-2009, 07:49 PM #4
There are several 3e conversions, BRCS being the obvious example. 4e is the subject of several peoples house rules, though none have been uploaded to the forum / wiki yet.
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03-20-2009, 08:18 PM #5
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Has anyone read the new WOTC license regarding fansites and their content? I can barely undestand legal speech in my own language, even less in english.
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03-26-2009, 10:42 AM #6
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Arjan had actually been in discussion with the people at WotC about this before 4th ed (and the Digitial Initiative) came out.
Ican't find the post with his results on it or I'd supply the link.
But if I recall correctly the gist of it was that there are no longer any Official fan sites (that include our friends at athas.org for Dark Sun).
WotC had wanted everything to be placed on their server (the DI) and thus "control" it from there. Basically everything pucblished on that site is no the property of WotC. The old "official fan site" agreement was that the material's IP was jointly owned by the creator and WotC to prevent "publishing" for profit without the other's agreement. The official fanstie was limited to only posting electronic products - they could never publish hard copies (doesn't mean people couldn't print their own versions only that the official site couldn't hard pulblish anything). They also could not "sell" any of the electronic products.
In exchange the offical fan site had almost unlimited access to use any of the 2nd ed setting products as long as credit to the original authors was given (specifically for any artwork). A lot of this was clarified over the years by Arjan through "discussions" with WotC.Duane Eggert
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03-20-2009, 10:34 PM #7
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03-21-2009, 08:08 AM #8
Sorry. Actually I see no reason not to convert old adventures - I made an index for adventures on the wiki in the vain hope that people would do so That will teach me to read posts on my blackberry...
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03-21-2009, 11:34 PM #9
Just tossing my two coins in here.
From what I've read about 4th Ed, I'll keep my 10' pole safely between me and that system.
Maybe I'm just old and grumpy, though...-Harald
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03-22-2009, 04:20 AM #10
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Ahh... Okay. Then why are you over here? Thanks being productive to the thread.
And as for coverting old adventures I am pretty sure that is a big no-no to do a complete written conversions of the old text and adventure. I think the only way to get around this is just putting mechanic fluff as in [Insert This Combat in Room 3].
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