Rashid doune Arrasi

[kgauck]

ar-Rasi is an Arabic name. However though it is pronounced (a)r-Râsî, it is written (a)l-Râsî. It is from the root RSW, meaning firm, steady or stable.

So Rashid (a)r-Râsî would mean Rashid the firm, whereas Rashid (a)l-(a)l-râsî would mean Rashid the the firm, which does not make sense....

I suggest we do away with the additional (e)l- before (a)r-Râsî

Well, let's keep in mind that the guy's name was not el-Arrasi, it was Rashid doune Arrasi. So his name makes sense. It is history (and perhaps Anuirean history) that calls him el-Arrasi. Especially if the name makes no sense as el-Arrasi, we can interpret that as the Anuirean name for him, reflecting their misunderstanding.

[kgauck]

The fictional characters in Cerilia aren`t actually Arabic. This
would be counter-productive. Since the character in the book was named el-Arrasi, renaming him would thwart someone trying to find the character from the book.

First, a link for Rashid doune Arrasi has existed for a while now (since I did Ariya), and I have been trying to create redirects from the various spellings of el-Arrasi. So when you search for el-Arrasi (or el-Arassi) you get Rashid doune Arrasi, which is the name he is given in cities of the sun, noting that he was know as el-Arrasi "later". I originally chose to name his page Rashid doune Arrasi because I prefer people's proper names to their nicknames or sobriquets.

[geeman]

At 11:16 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote:

>Well, let`s keep in mind that the guy`s name was not el-Arrasi, it
>was Rashid doune Arrasi. So his name makes sense. It is history (and
>perhaps Anuirean history) that calls him el-Arrasi. Especially if
>the name makes no sense as el-Arrasi, we can interpret that as the
>Anuirean name for him, reflecting their misunderstanding.

This makes good sense. The Anglification/Anuirification of his name,
even if it`s got no real connection to his actual Arabic/Khinasi name
is a longstanding "tradition" of Western languages. I remember
reading a treatise in a British pamphlet about how the "proper"
pronunciation of Don Quixote`s name was "Quiksote" so I`m curious if
el-Arrasi should be "properly" properly pronounced as "arrasi" or "arrazi"?

Gary

[Sir Tiamat]

Well, let's keep in mind that the guy's name was not el-Arrasi, it was Rashid doune Arrasi. So his name makes sense. It is history (and perhaps Anuirean history) that calls him el-Arrasi. Especially if the name makes no sense as el-Arrasi, we can interpret that as the Anuirean name for him, reflecting their misunderstanding.

I like it, it's simple and makes sense