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    There seem to be conflicting spellings in the wiki. Is it "El-Arrasi" or "El-Arassi" or something else?

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    Well, that settles it.
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    Hmm... should we also change the name of Halimah Arassi of Ariya then, since s/he was El-Arrasi's ancestor?

    Note that the wiki uses Halimah elsewhere as a female first name. Is that right? If so, then are we to take it that it was female admiral who led the Basarji navy in the battle of Deismaar? I actually like that idea.

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    My little guide to Arabic names says you can add "a" or "ah" to many male names to form feminine versions. So that would suggest Halim was a male name. Sounds about right. I'd say Halimah is female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTall View Post
    ar-Rasi is an Arabic name. However though it is pronounced (a)r-Rāsī, it is written (a)l-Rāsī. It is from the root RSW, meaning firm, steady or stable.

    So Rashid (a)r-Rāsī would mean Rashid the firm, whereas Rashid (a)l-(a)l-rāsī would mean Rashid the the firm, which does not make sense....

    I suggest we do away with the additional (e)l- before (a)r-Rāsī

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Tiamat View Post
    ar-Rasi is an Arabic name. However though it is pronounced (a)r-Rāsī, it is written (a)l-Rāsī. It is from the root RSW, meaning firm, steady or stable.

    So Rashid (a)r-Rāsī would mean Rashid the firm, whereas Rashid (a)l-(a)l-rāsī would mean Rashid the the firm, which does not make sense....

    I suggest we do away with the additional (e)l- before (a)r-Rāsī
    Well, let's keep in mind that the guy's name was not el-Arrasi, it was Rashid doune Arrasi. So his name makes sense. It is history (and perhaps Anuirean history) that calls him el-Arrasi. Especially if the name makes no sense as el-Arrasi, we can interpret that as the Anuirean name for him, reflecting their misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgauck View Post
    Well, let's keep in mind that the guy's name was not el-Arrasi, it was Rashid doune Arrasi. So his name makes sense. It is history (and perhaps Anuirean history) that calls him el-Arrasi. Especially if the name makes no sense as el-Arrasi, we can interpret that as the Anuirean name for him, reflecting their misunderstanding.
    I like it, it's simple and makes sense

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    On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Sir Tiamat wrote:
    > ------------ QUOTE ----------
    > P6 Cities of the Sun indicates El-Arrasi.
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    > ar-Rasi is an Arabic name. However though it is pronounced (a)r-Rāsī, it is written (a)l-Rāsī. It is from the root RSW, meaning firm, steady or stable.
    >
    > So Rashid (a)r-Rāsī would mean Rashid the firm, whereas Rashid (a)l-(a)l-rāsī would mean Rashid the the firm, which does not make sense....
    >
    > I suggest we do away with the additional (e)l- before (a)r-Rāsī

    The fictional characters in Cerilia aren`t actually Arabic. This
    would be counter-productive. Since the character in the book was
    named el-Arrasi, renaming him would thwart someone trying to find the
    character from the book.

    --
    Daniel McSorley

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