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    Zweilund Islands

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    You've dropped an 'i'. It's Zweilunds.
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    My issue with the Zweilunds (well, one of them) is that it should be at most 2 provinces -not 4. The one province per island approach is ridiculous, you get a L6 province on an island that elsewhere would be described as too small to be a province.

    I realise that they want it to be a playable realm but that shouldn't over-come the existing size issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTall View Post
    My issue with the Zweilunds (well, one of them) is that it should be at most 2 provinces -not 4. The one province per island approach is ridiculous, you get a L6 province on an island that elsewhere would be described as too small to be a province.

    I realise that they want it to be a playable realm but that shouldn't over-come the existing size issue.
    This tiny island realm not only has too many provinces, it has too many province levels!
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    4x infantry? 4x marines? 2x artillerists?.... and so on. This island is a military state, soldier on soldier, where you'd hire forces to destroy Gorgon and take over the Cerilia?
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    Frankly to keep the write up as is, you should make a new basin state and plug the Zweilunds in... An island chain adrift in often freezing waters should not rival Muden!

    btw the name: I keep wondering if it means two lands in german, its been a looong time since I learned ein zwei drei but it sounds two-ish to me.

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    Zwei is two in german, but lunds is nothing, although it could be related to lands....

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    Sounds like an English interpretation of German "Land". And an 's' for plural.
    Like Deutschland. Zweiland(s).
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    Lund, like land but soggier and lower lying...

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    There is a more or less general size for most provinces, though they
    tend to vary quite a bit. None of the Zweiland Islands are large
    enough to compare to the average size of a province. However, lots
    of folks have come up with rules to allow for the creation of "urban
    provinces" like the Imperial City. I`d suggest that Zweilunds are
    something like that. After all, if we have a tiny urban province
    with 10 levels of population then just about any of the tiny islands
    off the coast of Cerilia could be turned into provinces with standard
    population levels. It`s not like the population of those islands are
    engaging in a lot of traditional agriculture, manufacturing or other
    settling processes, which is the assumption for the population of
    most provinces. The Zweilunders are pirates, and pirates
    traditionally have relatively little use for open spaces.

    There are several other candidates for this kind of
    interpretation. There`s el-Feyin in Ghamoura and the islands of
    Dalceir in Mairada. Tomad in Ghamoura is rather small for a
    province, though maybe that one`s right around the point at which one
    might make the cut off. Several other Khinasi island states,
    however, have apparently uninhabited islands that would be plausible
    if the Zweilunds and those others qualify. I`ve always thought the
    island off of Ilien would work for a small province along those lines.

    Gary

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