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09-20-2006, 01:03 AM #21
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Originally Posted by ploeschDuane Eggert
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09-20-2006, 07:18 AM #22Originally Posted by Fizz
So it was possible for Azrai to made the Shadow World his home plane (maybe even he created it), because it was unknown, and unreachable for anyone else place, used by him for quick (plane shift) travel for his armies.
Originally Posted by irdeggman
Thanks for help, I appreciate it very much.Last edited by Thomas_Percy; 09-20-2006 at 07:31 AM.
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09-20-2006, 09:41 AM #23
OK, allow me to reiterate for your convenience:
There was once a time when the crystal sphere (read: universe) of "Birthright" amongst the world of the multiverse was made out of the raw stuff of everlasting chaos and constant change (that's the cosmological view, anyway).
At some point, the "planet" formed, and then the Seeming of what was to be the Shadow World and the material world that was to be Aebrynis were one and the same, combined in one, not quite malleable, not quite ever changing; it was at that point that the gods, originating from the world itself, quite a part of it, appeared on the land.
But the world was still changing, and with that their power and domain over the world. So, the 6 non-evil deities contributed to the stabilisation of the world, and, thus, their power. At that point, Aebrynis was formed, and the other side of the world became the Shadow World; Azrai, the Face of Evil, was fascinated as much as drawn to this raw force of chaos and started drawing his power from it. It is then that he recided within the Shadow World, and probably the reason he became more powerful than the other 6 deities - he was the only one who drew power from that source.
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09-20-2006, 02:28 PM #24
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09-20-2006, 03:34 PM #25
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Originally Posted by Fizz
It existing long before that (per Blood Spawn).
Halflings have been present on Aebryinnis (sp) since before that and they could travel between the two.
Elves and the the Faeries are from the same source (the Sie).
The Lost were taken from Aebrynnis and placed in the Shadow World (well that is the implication in the story of how Azrai recruited them - again in Blood Spawn).
etc.
Now the "fact" that travel and the "crossover" was more common after Deismaar is a different issue and really not in any apparent contridiction.Duane Eggert
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09-20-2006, 04:16 PM #26
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Originally Posted by irdeggman
OK, i guess i didn't see this as a contradiction, i thought it was a matter of whether it was common knowledge or not.
The Shadow World was not `discovered', that is, not commonly known to exist nor even written in any arcane or history texts, until after Deismaar.
In other words, i never thought that it's `discovery' precluded it's existence beforehand.
Keep in mind that the Atlas is written `by' Calidhe Dosiere. It's an in-game explanation.
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09-20-2006, 05:25 PM #27Originally Posted by Thomas_Percy
As for Blood Spawn in particular, it is certainly a bit odd in places. But is holds too much good stuff for BR to be ignored completely (such as interesting bits and pieces of cosmology).
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09-20-2006, 05:28 PM #28
I'd say that Azrai is clearly EVIL. I think there is no doubt about that.
As for Law-Chaos, there are strong indications that he was big on chaos, corruption and deceit. However, he also seemed quite keen on recruiting followers and making empires to worship him. Maybe overall a bit more Chaos than Law.
Overall I'd say his EVIL is so great that the Law-Chaos part is of less interest; so if I need one alignment I'd say NE.
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09-20-2006, 05:36 PM #29
I like putting Azrai in Hades. It sounds about right - bleak and hopeless - perfect for an evil god that wants to rule the world.
Carceri is also a good place for the Lost to have been imprissoned. Now some of them have wormed their way back to Cerilia by way of the Shadow World.
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09-20-2006, 05:39 PM #30
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