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    Crusader Kings II - Birthright Mod (WIP)

    Hey guys, just to let you know that I've started on a Birthright mod for Crusader Kings II.

    I know there was a previous post here a while back, but that project seems to have died... I now have a functional map, and with my experience from the MEP (Middle-Earth Project total conversion) I'm very confident that I can quickly get a Birthright mod off the ground for CK II

    More information here, but you'll have to register your Crusader Kings II game to view the modding forum on their site:*Take-II*

    I'm not *quite* at the stage yet where I'll need help, but keep an eye on it, because once I have the basic skeleton functional, I'll definitely need some Birthright experts onboard to fully build this mod to its full potential.

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    Nice! I think CK2 fits BR pretty pretty well, so really looking forward to see what you come up with

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    Special Guest (Donor) DarkApple's Avatar
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    Awesome stuff Alamar!

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    Some picture updates for those of you who haven't got access to the paradox forums because you don't own CK II

    The terrain view:

    Independent realms view:

    De Jure Empires view

    And the cultures/race view:

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    And some of the Awnsheighleen:

    (I made 2 of the gorgon's "children" listed here on, Darnae and "The Brute of Kal-Saitharak". I may make more in the future.

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    Administrator Arius Vistoon's Avatar
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    seems very nice

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    Keep up the good work !

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    We're making good progress, but any help is appreciated!

    For example on making characters - we will need several hundred. The rulers of the realms, their immediate families, and give them stats/traits. Also lesser vassals on the province level and notable henchmen/allies within the realms would be nice to include.

    Crusader Kings II is extremely modder friendly, you don't need any advanced technical knowledge to do so. It is just simple .txt notepad editing for the most part, and I can explain how to make characters at least in 5 minutes or so.

    So just to let anyone know, that they are welcome to join the team if they want to help expedite the progress of this mod

    As for progress report, on the main thread I just posted an update on the magic system I am working on, will repost below what I wrote on the main paradox forums.

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    Reposted from the main development thread on the CK II modding forum:

    Time for a preview of the magic system.

    While permission has been granted to adapt the 0.1.4 magic system from Elderkings once they release 0.1.5, there is another type of magic in the Birthright setting which will have to be built from scratch: Realm Magic. Due to many rulers having greater of lesser amounts of actual divine power flowing through their veins, they are capable of harnessing the power of the land that they rule to cast spells on a province-level, or even an entire region! They are also able to amplify the power of their combat spells, and summon free upkeep units.

    Here's how the Realm Magic system works on a basic level:

    -Piety is now called "Regency", which represents the amount of stored divine/rulership power in an individual
    -Tainted bloodline traits, will give 0.2 regency per month, while the greater bloodline traits give 0.8
    -You can build province level buildings called "source holdings" to gain more regency, if you are a mage or a sorcerer or have a court mage/sorcerer (given via minor title)
    -Priests with a bloodline trait gain regency from their temple holdings
    -If you are not a mage/sorcerer/priest yourself, you can give regency via a decision to your court priest/mage/sorcerer so that they can cast realm magic on your behalf

    It's still a work-in-progress, but here is how it plays out in-game so far:

    I m playing as the Gorgon, who is a master-level mage. A religious CB will cost 500 piety/regency, but I'll just give myself 5000 regency and gold via the cheat console to get this demonstration going!

    Via decision there are so far 2 types of Arcane Realm Magic you can open. This is the "normal" one, which can be used for non-war purposes.

    As you can see, though more features will be added later, so far you can cast an alchemy spell (converting 100 regency/piety to 25 gold), summon units, or ward your provinces against enemy spellcaster attacks. Here is the summon menu:

    With the Rajas of India DLC we'll be able to make special unit types, but so far zombies are light infantry, skeletons are heavy infantry, skeleton cavalry is light cavalry, and lesser daemons are horse archers. Each come in sizes of 100, and have varying costs in gold, ranging from 20 to zombies, to 75 for lesser daemons.

    You'll also note that the Gorgon gains the trait "casting_realm_magic" - preparing spells of such power take a lot of time and concentration, in the case of summonings, it will take a full 30 days, in which a regent will have to be appointed to handle the day to day affairs of state, in this case, my brutish son takes over, which is a slight problem since he is an imbecile and has 0 stats in everything, except martial which is 25!

    Thankfully, the Gorgons stats are so high that even distracted with spellcasting, he still has enough stats left to handle the most pressing concerns:

    But yes, now to war magic - I declare war on the elves, and open up the Arcane War Magic Menu:

    You can prepare direct-damage spells, but so far only lightning storms are implemented however. Depending on your skill, you will then get either a novice, trained, master, or legendary version of the spell. Novice levels give 10% damage to all opposing units, while a legendary lightning storm gives 40%! Once the spell is prepared, it comes in via trait-form, and stays with you until you unleash it. So be careful of attacking a realm with many spellcasters... though their armies may be few, if those mages or sorcerers are commanders they may unleash their magical powers to even the odds.

    Province subversion spells are even more powerful, however. A novice or a trained magic-user will be able to cast either a plague or a subversion spell on their enemies. AI's will target a random province, but for a player you can select one by sending your spymaster to build a spy-network in an enemy province and target the effects on his location. If you are a master or legendary level spellcaster, you can target an entire region - a single province, plus all the surrounding ones. As I am the Gorgon, I will start my assault on the elves by casting a giant plague on them!

    Ahh, yes, that'll show them what's what... now, I'll just march in, and...

    What? They have retaliated! Their Prince, Fhileraene, while not a master mage like myself is nonetheless trained in the arcane arts. He has cast an insurgency spell on one of my provinces:

    And well, that more or less shows how it will work in-game. There is a meta-strategy layer now, as you prepare to ward your provinces against these spells, dispel enemy effects, and have to wisely weigh the balance against using your regency/piety points to summon units or prepare damage spells, while still keeping enough in reserve to dispel enemy province-level spells which at this point can either cause 5-year plagues, or 2-year periods of increased revolt risk. Elves will probably also have some special defensive magic can be used in forested provinces, to give them a defensive edge against their more numerous enemies.

    But wait, aren't spellcasters vastly overpowered then? Yes, they are, but this is how D&D works. High level mages *are* overpowered, especially if they are rulers of a realm with vast resources at their command. Thankfully, due to JasperClays better Congenital Traits mod, we have a way of making them very rare. In the Birthright mod, you can choose to take for yourself, or educate your children, in an "adventurer class": Fighter, priest, mage, rogue, bard, ranger, or (sorcerer, but more on this in a bit).

    Anyone can become an amateur mage, but to become a novice mage, at the very least you need the trait intelligence trait "bright". Trained mages need to be "smart", master mages need to be "quick/brilliant", and legendary mages need to have the genius trait. You can train for as many years as you want and go on as many quests as you like, but if you are not smart enough, you will not advance to the next level of the mage class.

    Sorcerers work a little differently; their magic is based on inherent power, not intelligence. However, you will need to be descended from a sorcerer to be able to BE a sorcerer, and not all descendants have the magic power in their blood.

    Thus, while extremely powerful, mages will also be quite rare. Also, at lower levels, in duels, mages will be outmatched by the fighter classes so will tend to die frequently if leading armies and fighting one on one battles. It is only at the master/legendary level that mages and sorcerers truly come into their own vs the other classes.

    I'll also make some kind of "craft magical item" decision available for high level spellcasters and priests. Want an amulet of immortality for your aging arch-mage ruler? If you have enough gold and regency/piety, that might just be possible... or else there is always the path of Lichdom, though your subjects will of course disapprove!

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    Ehrshegh of Spelling Thelandrin's Avatar
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    This is the list of sub-ducal realms I was using for Empire's Twilight, which might be of use to you.


    Algaria: Deserain, Alaroine, Hilden, Laraeth, Soutmoor
    Tuornen: Ghonallison, Haesrien, Monsedge, Pechalinn
    Rivermouth: Traiward, Alamsreft, Maesford
    Norfell: Sorelies & Nortmoor, Sufhanie (Cariele) [disputed]

    Southwold: Anuire, Daulton
    Northlea: Avarien, Duriene, Elevesnemiere, Nabhriene
    Eastvale: Bhrein, Caulnor, Tuor's Hold
    Westmount: Nentril, Vanilen, Taliern

    Bhalaene: Bhalaene, Achiese, Conallier, Danaroene, Thoralinar
    Ghieste: Ghiere, Bheline, Rhumannen, Tireste, Tornilen
    (Chalcedon and Sendouras part of disputed baronies of Elin and Dawnmoor)

    Bevaldruor: Bevaldruor, Byrnnor, Dhalsiel
    The Maesil: Tenarien, Balteruine, Cwlldon, Maesilar
    Stonebyrn: Marloer's Gap & Winoene, Torien's Watch (Cariele) [disputed]
    Eastwatch: Periltrees, Brushfire, Sutren Hills

    Imperial City
    The Imperial City is an independent city-state, held in the name of the Emperor.


    Elin: Ansien, Chalcedon (Ghoere), Osoeriene (Osoerde) [disputed]
    Dawnmoor: Mholien & Soleite, Sendouras (Ghoere) [disputed]
    Silvermere: Caudraight, Deepshadow, Hope's Demise
    Crystalriver: Ranien, Cariene, Duornil, Mistil

    Duriene: Moriel, Ghalliere, Gulfport, Moergan
    Spiritmire: Ruorven, Bogsend, Sunken Lands
    Fenlands: Brothendar, Algael, Spiritsend
    (Osoeriene part of disputed barony of Elin)

    Baruk-Azhik: All six Dwarven provinces centrally controlled
    Southern Peaks: Lyssan, Barniere, Hamein, Salviene, Mhowe

    All provinces internally controlled


    Caerlinien: Riverford, Mhelliviene, Mountainsedge
    Fivepeaks: Floodspaeth, Puinol, Torain
    Thuraz: Mergarrote, Doom's Peak
    (Skyrim Peak does not have an associated barony)
    (Sufhanie & Torien's Watch part of disputed baronies of Norfell & Stonebyrn)

    Sonnelind: Sonnelind, Ruidewash, Tradebhein
    Taelshore: Nolien, Bjondrig, Riveside
    Northmarch: Giant's Fastness, Soniele, Sidhuire
    Northbyrn: Hidaele, Dharilein, Romiene

    Blackspear: Shattered Hills, Dwarf's Hold, Elfsdemise, Riverspring
    Mur-Kilad: Crushing Rock, Fallen Rock
    Crownguard: Stone's End, Pelt, Esmersdan

    All provinces internally controlled


    Wraithmoor: Calrie, Dhoenel, Halried
    The Erebannien: Banien's Deep, Northvale, Shadowgreen, Westmarch
    Proudglaive: Duerlin & Edlin, Caercas (Diemed) [disputed]
    Southmarch: Bellam & Fairfield, Ghoried (Diemed) [disputed]
    (Abbatuor part of disputed barony of Ilien)

    Greendale: Aerele, Bliene, Ciliene, Duene
    Medoere: Braeme, Alamier, Caerwil
    Spiderwatch: Moere, Tier
    Ilien: Ilien & Tamle (minor), Abbatuor (Aerenwe) [disputed]
    (Caercas & Ghoried part of disputed baronies of Proudglaive & Southmarch)

    Verdannt: Seaward, Crenier, Dhalier
    Arbourwatch: Serien, Lathier, Mielen
    Mistridge: Brenlie, Ghaele
    Atherstone: Blackspire, Bloodstone (still currently a County)


    Rhuann: Seasedge, Bacaele, Seaport, Tariene
    Northwode: Rivien, Dhalaese, Fhoruille
    Southwode: Calant, Nietier, Redoubt
    Blackriver: Helmshaven, Thasbyrn

    Islien: Seasdeep, Bhaine, Islien, Land's End (minor)
    Burgundy: Bindier, Brosien, Coere, Marilen, Stomwatch Isle (minor)
    Taeghas: Bayside, Portage, Seamist, Wilder's Gorge
    Baerghos: East Baerghos, Lesser Baerghos, West Baerghos, Drake's Rock (minor)

    Glamis: Ice Haven, Freestead, Serimset, Winter's Deep, Isle of Roses (minor)
    Cawdor: Lindholme, Greensward, the Gorge
    Aelvinnwode: Falling Timber, Bloodbay, Crushing Hills, Storm's Release


    Imperial Preserve
    Colovia: Anticlere, Delinona, Yerwood (Western Preserve)
    Nibenay: Flooding Lands, Njara's Fall, Reydport (Eastern Preserve)

    All four centrally controlled


    Baron of the Isles: Albiele (M), East Caelcorwynn (A), West Caelcorwynn (O), Southpoint (minor)
    Baron of the Fell: Endier, East Spiderfell, West Spiderfell

    Ius Hibernicum, in nomine juris. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

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