So, a lot of Birthright games I've been in of late....people want to add "buildings". Appearently, we grew up on games like Civ, and we want to build things. The Birthright core rules are very abstract. Ruling a province from 3 to 4 may mean adding some graneries, watchtowers, etc.

The newer Paizo kingmaker rules are very much "buildings-oriented", but lack the feudal feel of Birthright.

I wonder if a game might use Birthright for Dukes, but the province level rulers, the various feudal underlings, might be represented by Kingmaker.

We'd need to establish some sort of parity between a gold bar and a build point. I'm just starting out here with some ideas. Anyone have anything to add ?