Sierra Birthright Game

[Darkstar]

I hope the reason that the game is being delayed again to fix up a few
problems with the game.

It seems remarkably easy to take control of kingdoms like Avanil and
Boeruine in the demo.

I finally got around to downloading it yesterday and choose Brosengae as
my domain and as my 1st!! action made Avanil my vassel. Then all I had
to do was do diplomacy every action and demand my vassel to hand over
holdings and provinces to my control. After 4 turns in the game I was in
control of half of Avanil.
By the end of the 10th turn I was in control of all but 1 of Avanil
provinces, and had Taeghas, Endier, and Tournen also as my vassels.
Another thing. When I demanded that Avanil hand over one of its
province's it also handed over control of all the armies currently in
that province. This gave me a large army without even having to spend
money on them, accept for the maintenance.

Of course what I was doing was taking advantage of what I see as a small
problem in the game. Because when I began I was a vassel of Avanil the
game gives me a 150% chance when conducting diplomacy with Avanil,
instead of the normal 50% for a non-vassel. So it is very easy to turn
that around and make Avanil your vassel. If I had continued as I was, I
would soon have had control of much of south-western Anuire and more
than a match for the Gorgon or anyone else who came along.


It looks like a nice enough game, but doesn't look like much of a
challenge if it is going to be that easy to play...

- --
Ian Hoskins

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And to the Darkness we will return.

[Robert Ripley]

Darkstar wrote:

> I hope the reason that the game is being delayed again to fix up a few
>
> problems with the game.
>
> It seems remarkably easy to take control of kingdoms like Avanil and
> Boeruine in the demo.
>
> I finally got around to downloading it yesterday and choose Brosengae
> as
> my domain and as my 1st!! action made Avanil my vassel. Then all I had
>
> to do was do diplomacy every action and demand my vassel to hand over
> holdings and provinces to my control. After 4 turns in the game I was
> in
> control of half of Avanil.
> By the end of the 10th turn I was in control of all but 1 of Avanil
> provinces, and had Taeghas, Endier, and Tournen also as my vassels.
> Another thing. When I demanded that Avanil hand over one of its
> province's it also handed over control of all the armies currently in
> that province. This gave me a large army without even having to spend
> money on them, accept for the maintenance.
>
> Of course what I was doing was taking advantage of what I see as a
> small
> problem in the game. Because when I began I was a vassel of Avanil the
>
> game gives me a 150% chance when conducting diplomacy with Avanil,
> instead of the normal 50% for a non-vassel. So it is very easy to turn
>
> that around and make Avanil your vassel. If I had continued as I was,
> I
> would soon have had control of much of south-western Anuire and more
> than a match for the Gorgon or anyone else who came along.
>
> It looks like a nice enough game, but doesn't look like much of a
> challenge if it is going to be that easy to play...
>

The head designer addressed that problem on the Sierra BR BBS. He said
they fixed it.


- --

Bob R.

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[johnpost@umich.ed]

Your problems concerning the Diplomacy actions have been corrected.
There has been a discussion of several similar problems involving
the diplomacy action on Sierra's Message board. I have been assured
that they are corrected in the full version. Your vassalage problem
has been fixed by changing the percent needed for success. It is
now based on the size of the domain instead of a flat 150%. Thus
Ilien might be easy to lure into vassalage, but Avanil should be
almost impossible.


See
http://www.sierra.com/titles/birthright

- --John

On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 23:53:21 +0930 hoss@box.net.au (Darkstar) wrote:

>I hope the reason that the game is being delayed again to fix up a few
>problems with the game.
>
>It seems remarkably easy to take control of kingdoms like Avanil and
>Boeruine in the demo.
>
>I finally got around to downloading it yesterday and choose Brosengae
>as
>my domain and as my 1st!! action made Avanil my vassel. Then all I had
>to do was do diplomacy every action and demand my vassel to hand over
>holdings and provinces to my control. After 4 turns in the game I was
>in
>control of half of Avanil.
>By the end of the 10th turn I was in control of all but 1 of Avanil
>provinces, and had Taeghas, Endier, and Tournen also as my vassels.
>Another thing. When I demanded that Avanil hand over one of its
>province's it also handed over control of all the armies currently in
>that province. This gave me a large army without even having to spend
>money on them, accept for the maintenance.
>
>Of course what I was doing was taking advantage of what I see as a
>small
>problem in the game. Because when I began I was a vassel of Avanil the
>game gives me a 150% chance when conducting diplomacy with Avanil,
>instead of the normal 50% for a non-vassel. So it is very easy to turn
>that around and make Avanil your vassel. If I had continued as I was, I
>would soon have had control of much of south-western Anuire and more
>than a match for the Gorgon or anyone else who came along.
>
>
>It looks like a nice enough game, but doesn't look like much of a
>challenge if it is going to be that easy to play...
>
>--
>Ian Hoskins
>
>e-Mail: hoss@box.net.au
>Home Page: http://www.box.net.au/~hoss
>Page Updates: http://www.box.net.au/~hoss/update.html
>
>>From the Darkness we came.
>And to the Darkness we will return.
>
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