Some more figuring...

[Emanuel.Matos@space.gc.c]

> Level # avg population
> ---- -- ----------
> 0 1 1 k
> 1 24 2 k
> 2 60 6 k
> 3 77 10 k
> 4 28 15 k
> 5 15 25 k
> 6 11 40 k
> 7 2 55 k
> 8 - 70 k
> 9 - 85 k
> 10 1 100 k
>
> For a total Anuire population of approx : 2,623,000

Using these numbers as a basis to calculate the maximum
sustainable army at 10% (as per previous discussions*) we get:

Level Army Size # units
0 100 0.5
1 200 1
2 600 3
3 1000 5
4 1500 7.5
5 2500 12.5
6 4000 20
7 5500 27.5
8 7000 35
9 8500 42.5
10 10000 50

For a total of 262,300 soldiers in 1311.5 units.

This is one aspect I *love* about Birthright: the
populations in each province are small...

*The calculation of 10% above is a resultant of the
following line of thought:

50% of the population is male. Half of this number are
able-bodied and ready to fight (25% of the total). Of these,
some must be kept to do work. So a good number to quote
for a sustainable army is 10%. A sustainable army is one which
the kingdom may maintain and still remain economically productive.

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[L. Willett]

>Spanish had, in the XVI century ca, the greatest european army, and it was
ammassed
>quite all in only one province. This was because Spain ruled in that
period over ca half
>world, gaining treasures in Europe. So a small province like castiglia,
but with a
>monarch who own great resource, succeded in mantaining an army greater
than 50 % of the
>population for quite a century, and making war with this army !
>After, in the XVII century, the economical and militar politic of spanish
kings toke
>Spain to its feet and that great army was disbanded few in a time.

Well that bring to light a veru important point about all this max unit
per province quesiotion - how many of these units would BR consider as
mercenary ?
Personally I use a max unit limit per province in all my games, but the
number of merc units a player may have is limited totally by his treasury.

-

[Nadastor]

> *The calculation of 10% above is a resultant of the
> following line of thought:
>
> 50% of the population is male. Half of this number are
> able-bodied and ready to fight (25% of the total). Of these,
> some must be kept to do work. So a good number to quote
> for a sustainable army is 10%. A sustainable army is one which
> the kingdom may maintain and still remain economically productive.
>
> Emanuel Matos

You can't really think that. Or maybe i haven't understand.
Spanish had, in the XVI century ca, the greatest european army, and it was ammassed
quite all in only one province. This was because Spain ruled in that period over ca half
world, gaining treasures in Europe. So a small province like castiglia, but with a
monarch who own great resource, succeded in mantaining an army greater than 50 % of the
population for quite a century, and making war with this army !
After, in the XVII century, the economical and militar politic of spanish kings toke
Spain to its feet and that great army was disbanded few in a time.

So it seems clear to me that the only maximum unit a regent may have in any province is
dictated by his resource and his skills in manage resource. Infact is your DM duty make
things difficult to mantain such a great and unbalanced army (discussed on list things
like popular revolt, or soldiers raiding, and so on). Maybe you wanted say only that
this 10% is the maximun number of people called in levy, but even that i can't
understand. Maybe it is a limit for normal situation, but in wars medieval kingdom raise
army a lot superior to that number. Think about young assistant for every warriors,
women in army for other duties, elders who work on strategy and repairing materials, or
leading rifornments caravan and so on. Not to think about the fact that a woman during
middle age was respected if she remained in his father family or if she married, but
when a woman took a sword noone would talk to her in a different way than to a man. So
medieval army have even women among warriors.
So maybe, i repeat, i haven't understant the statement.

- --
Nadastor, nadastor@mail5.clio.it

[Jan P. M. Arnoldus]

On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 Emanuel.Matos@space.gc.ca wrote:

> > Level # avg population
> > ---- -- ----------
> > 0 1 1 k
> > 1 24 2 k
> > 2 60 6 k
> > 3 77 10 k
> > 4 28 15 k
> > 5 15 25 k
> > 6 11 40 k
> > 7 2 55 k
> > 8 - 70 k
> > 9 - 85 k
> > 10 1 100 k
> >
> > For a total Anuire population of approx : 2,623,000
>
> Using these numbers as a basis to calculate the maximum
> sustainable army at 10% (as per previous discussions*) we get:
>
> Level Army Size # units
> 0 100 0.5
> 1 200 1
> 2 600 3
> 3 1000 5
> 4 1500 7.5
> 5 2500 12.5
> 6 4000 20
> 7 5500 27.5
> 8 7000 35
> 9 8500 42.5
> 10 10000 50
>
> For a total of 262,300 soldiers in 1311.5 units.
>
> This is one aspect I *love* about Birthright: the
> populations in each province are small...
>
> *The calculation of 10% above is a resultant of the
> following line of thought:
>
> 50% of the population is male. Half of this number are
> able-bodied and ready to fight (25% of the total). Of these,
> some must be kept to do work. So a good number to quote
> for a sustainable army is 10%. A sustainable army is one which
> the kingdom may maintain and still remain economically productive.
>
> Emanuel Matos

If you check out the Muden sourcebook you'll notice a population
breakdown for the nation.
It goes like this 16,66% children
12,5 % elderly
2,5 % transients
68,33% workforce
Muden has a standing army of 10% of the workforce = 7%
it can call an additional 10% in a week (levies) =14%
and in an do or die situation it could get an additional 20% under arms
for a total of 24% army.

Since Muden isn't exceptionally well armed the ratio of 10% max seems
quite right.

Another thing are the leveled characters, (5% of the population) for
Anuire this works out to
Total pop 2.623.000 5% 131.150

Level 1 65525
Level 2 32763
Level 3 16381
Level 4 8191
Level 5 4095
Level 6 2047
Level 7 1024
Level 8 512
Level 9 256
Level 10 128
Level 11 64
Level 12 32
Level 13 16
Level 14 8
Level 15 4
Level 16 2
Level 17 1
Level 18 1

This kind of standard rule (#levelx = 2^(-levelx)*base) breaks down at
the top levels of course. But it seems to work reasonbly. The highest
leveled npc I've seen in the settings was the 19th level chairwoman of
the College of Sorcery.

Jan Arnoldus