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  1. #1
    verruchter@menagerie.ne
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    hey

    IM>Also, I recently downloaded the Sierra demo of Birthright (something of the
    >Gorgon).
    >And from what I saw, it had the potential to rule, but the demo really
    >sucked.

    Thats because the current demo doesn't work properly according to Bob
    Clardy. The working demo will come out about the time the game does.

    * 1st 2.00 #9097 * For a big surprise, try pressing ALT+H right now.

  2. #2
    Ian Hoskins
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    hey

    On 23-Apr-97, Jason Michael set out across the seas with this message:
    - ->Sierra games aren't that bad... Who can forget the adventures of
    - ->Roger Wilco (The Space Quest Series), or the Kings Quest games. I wasted
    - ->some of the best years of my life playing those!

    I can forget games like that very quickly. Mainly because I never played them
    :)
    I did however spend 6 months playing frontier.

    - --
    Darkstar

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  3. #3
    Ian Hoskins
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    hey

    On 24-Apr-97, Undertaker set out across the seas with this message:

    - ->As far as I can tell nothing stops non-Blooded characters from gaining RPs.
    - ->They mearly collect RPs based on thier Holdings, and Provinces, without
    - ->comparing them to a BL score. In my game I also cut thier RPs in half to
    - ->represent the greater control Blooded characters have over thier subjects. I
    - ->may be totally wrong here. Maybe one of the all knowing designers can answer
    - ->this question for us. How about it folks?

    But to gain RPs you need a bloodline. It is a blooded regent tie with the land
    that generates regency, not just the fact that he is the ruler. It is like the
    tie between a god and his worshippers, with out the worshippers he gains
    nothing, but the more worshippers the more powerful the god becomes.
    With a blooded character, the more holdings, provinces etc he holds the more
    regency he gains. After all the bloodlines are origionally from the old gods,
    so the blooded characters are similar to gods, although not very powerful
    gods.

    - --
    Darkstar

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  4. #4
    MemnochI@aol.co
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    hey

    >>As far as I can tell nothing stops non-Blooded characters from gaining RPs.
    >>They mearly collect RPs based on thier Holdings, and Provinces, without
    >>comparing them to a BL score. In my game I also cut thier RPs in half to
    >>represent the greater control Blooded characters have over thier subjects.
    I
    >>may be totally wrong here. Maybe one of the all knowing designers can
    answer
    >>this question for us. How about it folks?


    >>Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net

    I can help you here... on pages 30 and 31 of the BR rulebook it states that:
    " Blooded characters who control kingdoms (i.e. are regents) are
    blessed with a mystical connection to the land-a right to rule that infuses
    them with supernatural powers, responsibilities, and benefites In game
    terms, regency is measured by a Regency points (RP) score, just like hit
    points andbloodline strength. Not all *blooded* characters gain a Regency
    Point score - only regents amass a regency point score! "

    Now, a couple of conclusions bases upon this section:

    1. Only blooded characters can become regents

    2. only regents amass a regency point score.

    Therefore: only blooded regents gain regency thru the act of ruling domains.


    Memnoch

  5. #5
    Clay Stewart
    Guest

    hey

    - ----------
    > From: Undertaker
    > To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    > Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - hey
    > Date: Wednesday, April 23, 1997 2:33 PM
    >
    >
    > As far as I can tell nothing stops non-Blooded characters from gaining
    RPs.
    > They mearly collect RPs based on thier Holdings, and Provinces, without
    > comparing them to a BL score. In my game I also cut thier RPs in half to
    > represent the greater control Blooded characters have over thier
    subjects. I
    > may be totally wrong here. Maybe one of the all knowing designers can
    answer
    > this question for us. How about it folks?
    >
    >
    > Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
    >

    There is one thing that stops it. A character receives either the RP or
    their BL score,
    whichever one is lower.

  6. #6
    Undertaker
    Guest

    hey

    At 08:15 PM 5/5/97 -0500, Clay Stewart(clays@cyberramp.net)wrote:
    >
    >There is one thing that stops it. A character receives either the RP or
    >their BL score,
    >whichever one is lower.
    >

    I'm not restarting this thread so please no one take this as that. I just
    felt I had to point something out. Your statement would be absolutly correct
    if I hadn't specifical noted that, "They mearly collect RPs based on thier
    Holdings, and Provinces, without comparing them to a BL score." Of course I
    have since rethought this situation and go along with the concenous(sp?)
    that a 0 BL should be round up to 1, thus granting non-Blooded Regents 1 RP
    per DT. I still don't allow them to spend thier RPs on Realm Spells. It
    seems fair, but I have yet needed to apply it.

    Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net

    "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
    the province of life or death;
    the road to survival or ruin.
    It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
    -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

  7. #7
    Goldngrifn@aol.co
    Guest

    hey

    i.e.--no bloddline no regency points BL=0

  8. #8
    Bresser, R.T.
    Guest

    hey

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    > Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:49:45 -0400 (EDT)
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    > Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - hey
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    > In a message dated 97-05-31 21:55:31 EDT, you write:
    >
    > Date: 97-05-31 21:55:31 EDT
    > From: bstoner@efn.org (Brian Stoner)
    > Sender: owner-birthright@Phaser.ShowCase.MPGN.COM
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    > To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    >
    > At 11:58 AM 5/31/97 -0700, you wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >hey, I was recently reading the Birthright Rulebook, and I noticed on page
    > 31
    > >that it doesnt say that it IS possible for a commoner to become "Blooded"
    > by
    > >piercing the heart of one already blooded (in fact, it looks like a
    > commoner COULDNT
    > >become blooded in any way (save investment, as in Rogr Algondiers case in
    > Ilien).
    > >But I thought previously that a commoner COULD become blooded by doing
    > that.
    > >Which is it?
    > >
    > >Any Help?
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >Daniel Perkin
    >
    > I personally think a commoner should get be able to receive a bloodline by
    > killing a scion through the heart. I have assumed this to be the case,
    > although I did not look it up. Still, it just makes sense to me.
    >
    > -Brian
    > >>
    > A commoner can not become blooded by bloodtheft. They recieve no benefit
    > from it. Only blooded people may gain benefits through bloodtheft.

    I agree on the point that commoners can't perform the act of
    bloodtheft ... under normal circumstances! In Ruins of Empire one of
    the character descriptions (I believe a half-elf or human
    ranger from Ghoere - no bloodline) mentions an act of bloodtheft with
    a tighmaevril spear by this fellow being described. So I guess, with
    the help of tighmaevril commoners are able to perform bloodtheft!
    However, as there are only about a dozen tighmaevril weapons around,
    I dont't think it will cause many regent's sleepless nights; there's
    awnsheglien and other horrors for that!

    Roald

  9. #9
    David Keyser
    Guest

    hey

    >I agree on the point that commoners can't perform the act of
    >bloodtheft ... under normal circumstances! In Ruins of Empire one of
    >the character descriptions (I believe a half-elf or human
    >ranger from Ghoere - no bloodline) mentions an act of bloodtheft with
    >a tighmaevril spear by this fellow being described. So I guess, with
    >the help of tighmaevril commoners are able to perform bloodtheft!
    >However, as there are only about a dozen tighmaevril weapons around,
    >I dont't think it will cause many regent's sleepless nights; there's
    >awnsheglien and other horrors for that!

    >Roald

    Taking a closer look at that character description I am not so sure that is the
    case. The text says that his first bloodtheft awakened a latent bloodline in
    himself, something he did not know he had. That would imply he had a very low
    blood score to start with.

    Dave Keyser

  10. #10
    johnpost@umich.ed
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    hey

    "If a blooded character dies a natural death or perishes at the hands
    of a commoner, his bloodline is unaffected, and all his bloodline
    characteristics die with him. If a regent character dies in a similar
    manner, his heir assumes the regent's domain and his Regency Point
    score. The heir does not gain any blood strength or abilities..."
    BR Rulebook pp 31

    So according to the rules, the only way for an unblooded character to
    get a bloodline is to participate in an investure ceremony.

    On Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:49:51 -0700 davidk@synopsys.com (David Keyser)
    wrote:

    >>I agree on the point that commoners can't perform the act of
    >>bloodtheft ... under normal circumstances! In Ruins of Empire one of
    >>the character descriptions (I believe a half-elf or human
    >>ranger from Ghoere - no bloodline) mentions an act of bloodtheft with
    >>a tighmaevril spear by this fellow being described. So I guess, with
    >>the help of tighmaevril commoners are able to perform bloodtheft!
    >>However, as there are only about a dozen tighmaevril weapons around,
    >>I dont't think it will cause many regent's sleepless nights; there's
    >>awnsheglien and other horrors for that!
    >
    >>Roald
    >
    >Taking a closer look at that character description I am not so sure
    >that is the
    >case. The text says that his first bloodtheft awakened a latent
    >bloodline in
    >himself, something he did not know he had. That would imply he had a
    >very low
    >blood score to start with.
    >
    >Dave Keyser
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