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  1. #1
    Robin Cantin
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    Ships in rivers

    My group is going through the process of including the Cities of the Sun's
    naval rules into our campaing. Something that isn't covered in the rulebook
    is which ships can access rivers. I hardly see a galleon from the City of
    Anuire going all the way up to Cariele on the Measil! On the other hand,
    longships could probably make it (Vikings did raid Paris, after all).

    To determine weither a given ship can go upriver, I suppose we'd have to
    classify rivers as large ones and smaller ones. A certain class of ships
    could go into small rivers, others only into the larger ones.

    Looking at the map and the Player's secrets we have, we've come up with a
    few 'larger' rivers, where larger ships can venture (again, which ships?):

    *The Maesil, up to Ghieste
    *The Ruide, up to Tuarhivel
    *The Northbyrn

    Robin the Sailor ;)


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  2. #2
    David Sean Brown
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    Ships in rivers

    I don't have my books with me, but I seem to remember reading somewhere
    they had discussed something along those lines. I think caravels,
    ocasters and cogs all could travel rivers, but the big ships, like
    Galleons and Zebecs couldn't. If I can remember where I read it, or can
    find the list (it my have been in a Dragon article, now that I thin kabout
    it), Ill reference it on the list.

    Sean


    On Thu, 22 May 1997, Robin Cantin wrote:

    > My group is going through the process of including the Cities of the Sun's
    > naval rules into our campaing. Something that isn't covered in the rulebook
    > is which ships can access rivers. I hardly see a galleon from the City of
    > Anuire going all the way up to Cariele on the Measil! On the other hand,
    > longships could probably make it (Vikings did raid Paris, after all).
    >
    > To determine weither a given ship can go upriver, I suppose we'd have to
    > classify rivers as large ones and smaller ones. A certain class of ships
    > could go into small rivers, others only into the larger ones.
    >
    > Looking at the map and the Player's secrets we have, we've come up with a
    > few 'larger' rivers, where larger ships can venture (again, which ships?):
    >
    > *The Maesil, up to Ghieste
    > *The Ruide, up to Tuarhivel
    > *The Northbyrn
    >
    > Robin the Sailor ;)
    >
    >
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  3. #3
    Finnsson
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    Ships in rivers

    Vikings formed the province of Normandie in France. A king from
    Normandie invaded England later. These vikings were mostly Danish.
    The viking, who was the leader of the party who got to America, was the
    son of the viking who found Iceland (I belive). These vikings ware
    mostly from Norway.
    The Swedish vikings traveled to China and Russia. In Russia they formed
    the city Kiew, who was going to be the Russian capital for some time.
    Just so you know...
    They used a very good method of traveling with ships over land. They
    took lumber and rolled the ship over the land. This way they could
    travel between rivers in Russia.

    I haven't the box 'bout Rjurik. Is they like the Vikings? Do they
    warship a god that can cast lightnings from a hammer (the gods name is
    Tor) and that travel in a wagon?

    //Finnsson

  4. #4
    Robin Cantin
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    Ships in rivers

    >I haven't the box 'bout Rjurik. Is they like the Vikings? Do they
    >warship a god that can cast lightnings from a hammer (the gods name is
    >Tor) and that travel in a wagon?
    >
    >//Finnsson

    Aside from religion, they're really a lot like the old Scandinavian people.
    They worship Cerilian gods (mostly Aeric). Sorry, no Odin or Thor. When you
    have a chance to look at the content of the box, you'll see the
    similarities immediately. The regents are even called Jarls.

    Robin


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    tbeutler@sprynet.co
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    Ships in rivers

    On Mon, 02 Jun 1997, Finnsson wrote:
    >Vikings formed the province of Normandie in France. A king from
    >Normandie invaded England later. These vikings were mostly Danish.
    >The viking, who was the leader of the party who got to America, was the
    >son of the viking who found Iceland (I belive). These vikings ware
    >mostly from Norway.
    >The Swedish vikings traveled to China and Russia. In Russia they formed
    >the city Kiew, who was going to be the Russian capital for some time.
    >Just so you know...
    >They used a very good method of traveling with ships over land. They
    >took lumber and rolled the ship over the land. This way they could
    >travel between rivers in Russia.
    >
    >I haven't the box 'bout Rjurik. Is they like the Vikings? Do they
    >warship a god that can cast lightnings from a hammer (the gods name is
    >Tor) and that travel in a wagon?
    >
    >//Finnsson
    >
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    >>'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
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    They almost exclusively worship Erik and their priests are druids. No
    Valhalla or Rainbow bridge (no aquavit, but good beer in Stjorvik) The
    Rjuriks do have several referenced similarities to the Vikings. Clothing,
    armor, lifestyle... While great warriors, there is not a widespread
    bloodlust, although there are "beserkers" and raiders... There are even
    nomadic tribes like the Laplanders. Their colonies in Thael (?) resemble
    the Vikings' colonies in Iceland, Greenland and other islands.

    If you know anyone interested in a PBEM Birthright campaign including the
    Rjurik, I'd be interested.

    There may also be new Birthright materials featuring the Giantdowns and
    another northern domain (Hjorn...).

  6. #6
    Espen A. Johnsen
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    Ships in rivers

    Yes Vikings raided paris and they visited America before Columbus!!!

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