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[Nadastor]

A question I have forgotten:

Are there around someone who have fond a different set of rule, either hand
made or published, that fit Birthright ?

Thanks
Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
"The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
The world is not around him, but is in him !"

[Gandalf]

>Yes, I'm an old DM. I love Birthright setting but when for the first time I
>tryed a campaign in Cerilia I fond a lot of problems. My players enjoy those
>sessions a lot, but my self critic, always harder than that of my player,
>imposes a stop to me, and mind work.
>
>Now I want to start another campaing and I ask to you all the assistence you
>can give, I mean, suggestions.
>
>Every kind of suggestion.
>
>- In particular I propose the problem of PCs lv, starting and gaining.
>- The balance with the rest of the world
>- What kind of campaign
>- How many regents, how many kings you suggest
>- what about rules for resolving wars?
>
>I only have this great range plot in mind:
>- In about five year the players assourge to great title, and finally one of
>them beacame emperor, either with the empire united or to be to reunite
>- The next five fighting the rebirthed cult of Azrai until in the end a
>great fight with the god itself finally recreated by a powerful sect that
>oppose secretly all the time to the PC, this passage with battle for
>expansion and domination and against the abominations, slave of Azrai coming
>back.
>- Finally this decade has caused a great new event to start, and here I want
>to make something really new, maybe involving the shadow world.
>
>It may seems an ambitious project, surely it was, but i have great player
>and a lot of time to play so... why don't pointing high?
>
>Thanks
>Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes

I have some things in mind, yes. Ill tell u, but not right now. About the
empire though... wouldn't it be kinda hard to get rid of Boeruine and the
other jerk, Avan? Expect major opposition.
And about a greater plot: the Lost. I dunno much yet, cos i'm just a player
and my DM won't tell me much about it yet, but he's up to sth.
And as far as my characters long-term ambitions are, it ain't money or
power. Or sources. Actually, i'd like to bring Basaia back from the
dead-book. How do u expect to raise Azrai, by the way?

-

[Nadastor]

At 22.32 16/05/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 17 May 1997, Nadastor wrote:
>
>> - In particular I propose the problem of PCs lv, starting and gaining.
>
>I suppose I'm also one of the "old fashoined" DMs, but I have always
>believed that PCs should ALWAYS start at first level, regardless of the
>campaign type. You can never really recreate the role playing
>possibilities of a character that can be killed by an errant sling stone,
>or a lucky goblin (it is also a great weay to keep the players
>interested). As far as gaining levels is concerned, try to intertwine
>some of the adventures with thestory line...keeps the PCs incvolved in
>everything, but a dungeon crawl is always a welcome diversion. (As you can
>tell, I also prefer to have the regents adventure for thier experience,
>nothing comes for free..)



I agree, but I have another problem: let your player gain levels quicly and
they are not any more like the other people, cause, we know, in Cerilia the
great character are, to say, 7th level about. How you solve the problem? To
let all these people grow like the PCs is a bit forced, giving PCs less XP
than they gain isn't fair, then ?



>> - The balance with the rest of the world
>
>I'm not sure what exactly you mean by this, but in my ame, I try to keep
>the NPCs on par with the PCs (level/experince/intelligence) to keep the
>PCs honest (It is awfully tempting for PCs when the ruler of the next
>realm is "only" a level 3 mage "We can take him...") Always play the NPCs
>to tehe best of your abilities...act like they are all your characters,
>and you are trying to beat the PCs...makes things more challenging for
>them.
>


Agree



>> - What kind of campaign > - How many regents, how many kings you suggest
>
>I much prefer the group rule sort of campaign. Have (for exmple) one
>regent rule the country, another the guilds/sources/temples. If there are
>more PCs than this, move on to other relativly close lands (if they are
>neighbors, it makes things too easty with respect to allying to combat
>other realms...distance makes this still possible, biut a little more
>difficult. Haveing one PC as the "King" can lead to trouble, depending on
>your group. If they can handle one of the PCs being in a position to give
>commands to the rest of the group..so much the better.


I'll try



>
>> - what about rules for resolving wars?
>
>
>I use the standard BR rules, but tend to decide the obviouly one sided
>battles withut it.
>

Agree


>
>Anyway, this is mearly a list of things I have come up with over the
>course of my campaign..hope it helps..

Thank you, it will surely help.



>
>Sean B
>

Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
"The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
The world is not around him, but is in him !"

[Sean Brown]

What exactly are "the Lost"? I don't remember reading about them.
Where would I get some info on them?

sean B

[David Sean Brown]

> I agree, but I have another problem: let your player gain levels quicly and
> they are not any more like the other people, cause, we know, in Cerilia the
> great character are, to say, 7th level about. How you solve the problem? To
> let all these people grow like the PCs is a bit forced, giving PCs less XP
> than they gain isn't fair, then ?
>
There are a few ways to get around this. FIrst, use the ancient rule that
you can never gain more than 1 level per adventure..it slows them dawn a
bit (RL terms..game time is still the same). Have the PCs require to
train, and pay for training with a NPC specific to their class. This is
useful because if the NPC is not available (adventuing/vacation/dead/just
doesn't feel like it) the PCs can't advance until you areready to let
them. As well, run a few more domain turns, to make game time go by a
little faster...PCs do have to spend a considerable time ruling their
relams. Finally, if none of this seemsto work, there is always the Shadow
World, and its multitude of level draining beasties to bring the PCs back
down to the levels you want. (Hmmmm...its great to be the DM :) )

Sean

[Nadastor]

At 15.20 17/05/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>Yes, I'm an old DM. I love Birthright setting but when for the first time I
>>tryed a campaign in Cerilia I fond a lot of problems. My players enjoy those
>>sessions a lot, but my self critic, always harder than that of my player,
>>imposes a stop to me, and mind work.
>>
>>Now I want to start another campaing and I ask to you all the assistence you
>>can give, I mean, suggestions.
>>
>>Every kind of suggestion.
>>
>>- In particular I propose the problem of PCs lv, starting and gaining.
>>- The balance with the rest of the world
>>- What kind of campaign
>>- How many regents, how many kings you suggest
>>- what about rules for resolving wars?
>>
>>I only have this great range plot in mind:
>>- In about five year the players assourge to great title, and finally one of
>>them beacame emperor, either with the empire united or to be to reunite
>>- The next five fighting the rebirthed cult of Azrai until in the end a
>>great fight with the god itself finally recreated by a powerful sect that
>>oppose secretly all the time to the PC, this passage with battle for
>>expansion and domination and against the abominations, slave of Azrai coming
>>back.
>>- Finally this decade has caused a great new event to start, and here I want
>>to make something really new, maybe involving the shadow world.
>>
>>It may seems an ambitious project, surely it was, but i have great player
>>and a lot of time to play so... why don't pointing high?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
>
>I have some things in mind, yes. Ill tell u, but not right now. About the
>empire though... wouldn't it be kinda hard to get rid of Boeruine and the
>other jerk, Avan? Expect major opposition.
>And about a greater plot: the Lost. I dunno much yet, cos i'm just a player
>and my DM won't tell me much about it yet, but he's up to sth.
>And as far as my characters long-term ambitions are, it ain't money or
>power. Or sources. Actually, i'd like to bring Basaia back from the
>dead-book. How do u expect to raise Azrai, by the way?
>
>

[JOHN RICKARDS]

> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> From: Nadastor
> Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - DM Help
> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:12:51 +0100
> Reply-to: birthright@MPGN.COM

> A question I have forgotten:
>
> Are there around someone who have fond a different set of rule, either hand
> made or published, that fit Birthright ?
>
> Thanks
> Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
> "The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
> His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
> The world is not around him, but is in him !"
>

I've just written my own set, leaving most of the Birthright stuff as
it is, but including the various "house rules". Mainly I wrote it
because I was fed up with having to use AD&D which is, to say the
least, rather.... cumbersome.

John Rickards

"He who is looking for something has lost something."
"And he who is not looking?"
"He gets run over."



PS. Dan. Hahahahaha.

[Gandalf]

>> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
>> From: Nadastor
>> Subject: [BIRTHRIGHT] - DM Help
>> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:12:51 +0100
>> Reply-to: birthright@MPGN.COM
>
>> A question I have forgotten:
>>
>> Are there around someone who have fond a different set of rule, either hand
>> made or published, that fit Birthright ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
>> "The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
>> His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
>> The world is not around him, but is in him !"
>>
>
>I've just written my own set, leaving most of the Birthright stuff as
>it is, but including the various "house rules". Mainly I wrote it
>because I was fed up with having to use AD&D which is, to say the
>least, rather.... cumbersome.
>
>John Rickards

Where can we find them?

-

[Gandalf]

>What exactly are "the Lost"? I don't remember reading about them.
>Where would I get some info on them?
>
>sean B

The Lost:
Undead Sorcerer Kings predating Deismaar. They were Azrai's most trusted
advisors and lieutenants. When he died, the few that survived Deismaar
either fled to Aduria or went on to Cerilia.
I have no access to DM info, but i am sure of the following:
There are a number of Lost in Cerilia, at least two and might even be four.
The most certain is El-Sheigull (correct me if i speel it wrong). Another
one is possibly a Lost, and resides in Vosgaard. The Raven might be Lost,
but he is most probably a "son of Azrai". Distinction is a bit fuzzy.
Finally, i suspect the Awnshegh known as the Dread might be one too. He was
blooded before Deismaar without being a god. That suggests Lost. And he was
also powerful enough to challenge Azrai. He lost, tho.

-

[Gandalf]

>At 15.20 17/05/97 +0200, you wrote:
>>>Yes, I'm an old DM. I love Birthright setting but when for the first time I
>>>tryed a campaign in Cerilia I fond a lot of problems. My players enjoy those
>>>sessions a lot, but my self critic, always harder than that of my player,
>>>imposes a stop to me, and mind work.
>>>
>>>Now I want to start another campaing and I ask to you all the assistence you
>>>can give, I mean, suggestions.
>>>
>>>Every kind of suggestion.
>>>
>>>- In particular I propose the problem of PCs lv, starting and gaining.
>>>- The balance with the rest of the world
>>>- What kind of campaign
>>>- How many regents, how many kings you suggest
>>>- what about rules for resolving wars?
>>>
>>>I only have this great range plot in mind:
>>>- In about five year the players assourge to great title, and finally one of
>>>them beacame emperor, either with the empire united or to be to reunite
>>>- The next five fighting the rebirthed cult of Azrai until in the end a
>>>great fight with the god itself finally recreated by a powerful sect that
>>>oppose secretly all the time to the PC, this passage with battle for
>>>expansion and domination and against the abominations, slave of Azrai coming
>>>back.
>>>- Finally this decade has caused a great new event to start, and here I want
>>>to make something really new, maybe involving the shadow world.
>>>
>>>It may seems an ambitious project, surely it was, but i have great player
>>>and a lot of time to play so... why don't pointing high?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
>>
>>I have some things in mind, yes. Ill tell u, but not right now. About the
>>empire though... wouldn't it be kinda hard to get rid of Boeruine and the
>>other jerk, Avan? Expect major opposition.
>>And about a greater plot: the Lost. I dunno much yet, cos i'm just a player
>>and my DM won't tell me much about it yet, but he's up to sth.
>>And as far as my characters long-term ambitions are, it ain't money or
>>power. Or sources. Actually, i'd like to bring Basaia back from the
>>dead-book. How do u expect to raise Azrai, by the way?
>>
>>