Raise Dead

[Undertaker]

Ooops...I seemed to have made a little typo. In my last Post I said, "...In
my own Campaign the only way a Character can be brought back is with the use
of the Cleric Ressurection spell." I meant to say the Clerical
"Reincarnation" spell.

Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

[Undertaker]

At 11:28 PM 5/14/97 -0600, Ken(wilskenn@cwis.isu.edu)wrote:
>
>One of the problems that I see in our group is that people don't mind too
>much when their character dies, because 'theres always my *backup*
>character'.
>

>

If this is your problem I have a solution that has worked for me in the
past. Regardless of what HPs and rolls say don't let the PC die. Instead
leave them with a permanent affliction. For instance, they could lose an
arm(and 1/4 of thier total HPs), they lie near death's door until rescued
and revived only to find they have lost a point of Con., they lose an eye
and gain a -2 penalty to hit, they get maimed and lose a point of Dex., etc.
Believe me if they suddenly find they can't rely on death to make things
alright they will become cautious. Just deny them access to thier 'backups'
and you can put the fear back into some of your encounters. Hope that helps.

Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

[Robert Ripley]

Undertaker wrote:

> Ooops...I seemed to have made a little typo. In my last Post I said,
> "...In
> my own Campaign the only way a Character can be brought back is with
> the use
> of the Cleric Ressurection spell." I meant to say the Clerical
> "Reincarnation" spell.
>
> Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
>
> "War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
> the province of life or death;
> the road to survival or ruin.
> It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
> -Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.

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Bob R.

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[Hatzitaskos]

>One of the problems that I see in our group is that people don't mind too
>much when their character dies, because 'theres always my *backup*
>character'.

I really don't think backup characters are a problem. Maybe in other
worlds, and maybe if you just allow them to be as powerful as previous
ones. Point is, make any new character first level. If he'd really be
hopeless, make him 5th. But at least 5, even 10 lvls lower than the rest of
the party. That'll make him think again about just dying.
Also in BR, what happens when a regent dies: chaos. If they plan to
continue on the same state, then u should give them plenty of random
events, uprisings, new contestants to the throne, etc. If they plan to take
over (or inherit) a new one, then they should have just as many problems,
and you should make clear that changing states is no simple thing.

Kostis "Joran Aglondier" Hatzitaskos

[Hatzitaskos]

>Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.
>
>--
>
> Bob R.

Well, forgive me for saying so, but it seems to me a bit dull, how one
would just let wizards raise the dead. Sure, i agree that raising shouldn't
be an easy job, but at least the clerics have the right to do that!
Regardless of the fact that clerics have traditionaly handled all healing
magic (and this is certainly healing), reincarnation seems like a godly act.

What I do is:
Only clerics can raise.
They must be of a great lvl (I really just decide that on the spot,
depending on the character and the situation).
The character in question should somehow interest the god.

Wizards should really not be given sucjh power. Or at least not just them.
Simply ain't fair.

Kostis "Joran Aglondier" Hatzitaskos

[L.Willett]

>> Ooops...I seemed to have made a little typo. In my last Post I said,
>> "...In
>> my own Campaign the only way a Character can be brought back is with
>> the use
>> of the Cleric Ressurection spell." I meant to say the Clerical
>> "Reincarnation" spell.
>
>Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.

This sort of thing would be good for me to know, btw. As I think I'm the
only priest regent who can cast these high level necromancy spells...
Unless your not refering to this game, of course...
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[Undertaker]

At 12:03 PM 5/15/97 -0700, Robert Ripley(bobripley@earthlink.net)wrote:
>
>Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.
>

The Wizard Reincarnation makes it too easy for the Player to just jump back
into the game. The Priest Reincarnation spell makes the Player wary about
using it to return from the dead. In fact if they don't just love the
character they probably won't risk it. Not to mention I like the idea of
Druids being the ones with this ultimate ability. Of course this is MHO. :-)

Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net

"War is a matter of vital importance to the State;
the province of life or death;
the road to survival or ruin.
It is mandatory that it be thoroughly studied."
-Sun Tzu,(The Art of War)-

[Robert Ripley]

Hatzitaskos wrote:

> >Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.
> >
> >--
> >
> > Bob R.
>
> Well, forgive me for saying so, but it seems to me a bit dull, how one
>
> would just let wizards raise the dead. Sure, i agree that raising
> shouldn't
> be an easy job, but at least the clerics have the right to do that!
> Regardless of the fact that clerics have traditionaly handled all
> healing
> magic (and this is certainly healing), reincarnation seems like a
> godly act.
>
> What I do is:
> Only clerics can raise.
> They must be of a great lvl (I really just decide that on the spot,
> depending on the character and the situation).
> The character in question should somehow interest the god.
>
> Wizards should really not be given sucjh power. Or at least not just
> them.
> Simply ain't fair.
>
> Kostis "Joran Aglondier" Hatzitaskos

I like the interest in the god... Only makes sense to raise your own
worshippers.

However, Reincarnation is a Wizards spell of 7th(?) level in the PHB...
not my rule.

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Bob R.

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[Kariu@aol.co]

>>>>all other info sniped

[L.Willett]

>>> Ooops...I seemed to have made a little typo. In my last Post I said,
>>> "...In
>>> my own Campaign the only way a Character can be brought back is with
>>> the use
>>> of the Cleric Ressurection spell." I meant to say the Clerical
>>> "Reincarnation" spell.
>>
>>Same with my campaign... only Reincarnation is a Wizard spell.
>
> This sort of thing would be good for me to know, btw. As I think I'm the
>only priest regent who can cast these high level necromancy spells...
> Unless your not refering to this game, of course...

Disregard this previous post, please.
I was under a 'Confusion' spell, and emailed the list, instead of the
author...
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