Azrai

[Hatzitaskos]

>>Does anyone else think it might be possible that Azrai might have survived
>>Diesmar? In Ruins of Empire there is reference to a church named the Hand
>>of Azrai, and I could swear that the archpriest was a spell-caster of some
>>kind.
>
>It may be possible that some of Azrai's power is left. I for one think that
>the Cold Rider in the shadow world is either a weakened fraction of Azrai
>essence or one of his avatars that somehow survived. He was after all the
>strongest of all of the gods so he may be on his way back. My current
>campaign is a mad scramble by the PC's to try and stop him from doing so.
>
>Michael
>

For one, the Hand of Azrai, as far as i can tell, is just a small church, mainly maintained by
the Gorgon (correct me if i'm wrong). Anyway, this is not the first time a dead god's
portfolio has been assimilated by another. Remember what happened in Toril after the
time of troubles. Cyric gave Bane's clerics spells even to fight his clerics.

As for the Cold Rider, I do not see how a single avatar could survive. It is, however, a
very interesting idea. I believe Azrai just died, and the LOst are the last fragments of his
power. The Cold Rider is probably just a small god from another plane.

Kostis "Gandalf-Nimrodel"

[Nadastor]

> It's not neccessary. But if I'm talking about how I think things
>*should* be, and you respond with "Hey, anyone can do anything," you
>haven't added to the discussion. Telling us *why* you think things
>shouldn't be that way would be more appropriate.
>

All of you are right in one or another way, IMHO, but NOW stop it.

People of the list who like talking about birthright let leave that people
who like talking about "you can, you can't", and simply talk about BR.
My way is this: when i find someone lose the point of the list using that
rightly named "tautology", or some other thing i don't like, i simply ignore
him.
If You, people-who-like-talking-about-BR, will do the same these kind of
guys will find alone speaking with themself.
Now stop it.

Azrai, well, this another matter.
Rich and the other people there seem to say without doubt that Azrai's dead.
Now assuming it is not, what happened at Deismaar ?
All gods died, but we can say that a god can truly die ?
Leaving planescape for those that want it, we should speak about cerilia.

I think that Azrai, like all other gods, is dead as a sentient being, but as
a god isn't dead as power. His power has been distribuited among all those
people in range.

I believe that the only way to have a rebirthing of such a god is to unite
in an intelligent mind a great amount of Azrai's power, so that this
creature will be a lot like Azrai itself. It' something like talking about a
man. His dead as a mind, but his body has shattered among the grass, if we
unite a great part of his body in control of another mind we have something
similar to the original.

And this is IMO the explanation of the bloodstones, they are the stones
below the gods when they died, so they are full of their power, maybe they
are the single fullest thing of their power. But i'd add in my campaign, if
i want all this, the need of an intelligent mind in the stones to have them
function, a mind that lose his memory to became really Azrai or one other
god, accordig to the stones, this can be something the pc will know only
after uniting the stone and finding nothing happen, and may be resolved much
like creating intelligent weapon. A great quest indead for them.
I'm not yet truly sure about all that so i'll not add this to my campaign yet.
I'm awaiting to know what you think about that, please, not if i can do that
or not.




Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
"The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
The world is not around him, but is in him !"

[Nadastor]

> It's not neccessary. But if I'm talking about how I think things
>*should* be, and you respond with "Hey, anyone can do anything," you
>haven't added to the discussion. Telling us *why* you think things
>shouldn't be that way would be more appropriate.
>

All of you are right in one or another way, IMHO, but NOW stop it.

People of the list who like talking about birthright let leave that people
who like talking about "you can, you can't", and simply talk about BR.
My way is this: when i find someone lose the point of the list using that
rightly named "tautology", or some other thing i don't like, i simply ignore
him.
If You, people-who-like-talking-about-BR, will do the same these kind of
guys will find alone speaking with themself.
Now stop it.

Azrai, well, this another matter.
Rich and the other people there seem to say without doubt that Azrai's dead.
Now assuming it is not, what happened at Deismaar ?
All gods died, but we can say that a god can truly die ?
Leaving planescape for those that want it, we should speak about cerilia.

I think that Azrai, like all other gods, is dead as a sentient being, but as
a god isn't dead as power. His power has been distribuited among all those
people in range.

I believe that the only way to have a rebirthing of such a god is to unite
in an intelligent mind a great amount of Azrai's power, so that this
creature will be a lot like Azrai itself. It' something like talking about a
man. His dead as a mind, but his body has shattered among the grass, if we
unite a great part of his body in control of another mind we have something
similar to the original.

And this is IMO the explanation of the bloodstones, they are the stones
below the gods when they died, so they are full of their power, maybe they
are the single fullest thing of their power. But i'd add in my campaign, if
i want all this, the need of an intelligent mind in the stones to have them
function, a mind that lose his memory to became really Azrai or one other
god, accordig to the stones, this can be something the pc will know only
after uniting the stone and finding nothing happen, and may be resolved much
like creating intelligent weapon. A great quest indead for them.
I'm not yet truly sure about all that so i'll not add this to my campaign yet.
I'm awaiting to know what you think about that, please, not if i can do that
or not.




Nadastor, Wizard of the Black Robes
"The power of a man is not in his hands, but in his eyes !
His life is not into his body, but into his mind !
The world is not around him, but is in him !"