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  1. #1
    Hugo Alexandre Vilardour
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    one final word from me on unblo

    On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Dandakil Snerd/Obscured wrote:

    > I simply have one final jab at those who are COMPLETELY against Unblooded
    > Regents, and think it is a STUPID idea.
    > Heres a little story.
    > A thief named Davan had a little 3 year old boy. He had a 16 charisma, and
    > was very well liked. One day, as he
    > was one of the Guild Leaders (he was blooded) Leutenants, he was invested
    > during the Guild Leaders final moments.
    > 15 years pass by. The 3 year old grows up around all the Guildsmen, and is
    > well liked as the Guild leaders (still unblooded)
    > son. He is also the heir to the guild, as his son.
    > One day, Davan kicks the bucket unexpectedly, before he can invest his
    > bloodline in his son. The son is heir, and becomes the leader of the
    > Guild.
    > I want to know if those of you people who say that NO WAY a person can have
    > regency think that:
    > This son could not set up a FREAKING TRADE ROUTE (1 GB, and ****1 RP****)
    > before he was slaughtered (in your ideas)
    > just because he didnt have blood, even though he was well-liked as the son
    > of a regent. He obviously couldn't set up a trade
    > route without a regency point.
    > What kind of tie does a Guild merchant have to the land?
    > It is absurd to think that the rules restrict some people so much as to
    > outlaw a move like this.
    > Thanks for listening,
    > Daniel Perkin


    Excuse me for my english (i am Portuguese).

    I am new to Birthright and to this mail list so excuse me if any thing i
    say in this post is wrong.

    -When a blooded char has a child doesn't his child get's automatically
    BL and the Blood Str=(father Blood Str+mother Blood Str)/2 ?

    Apart from that:

    The way i intend to play a non blooded pc being a regent is just i play
    a blooded char that his BS = 0. everytime he/she collects RP he gets a
    max. of 1RP.

    You may say this is to low but i am being a DM in a BirthRight campain
    and one of my PC Blood Str=4 so i think any other amount of RP for a non
    blooded char would be unfair..
    Of course i may think of creating an object that has a natural relation
    to the land an soo allowing the collect of more RP.
    Something like an ancient tree or some artifact that as come direcly
    from the gods well anything (if this is ever needed in my campain).
    But is not because a non blooded char has a CHA:16 that the king would
    let him rulle a gild as eassly as a blooded char. Think like this when
    someone makes a trade route (and expends 1 RP) he is really telling
    everyone "This is MY trade route i am a direct descent from the gods so
    respect me. Don't touch MY TRADE ROUTE.".
    If a nonblooded char makes a trade route and although he may be respect
    in the guild he rules, thiefs from other guild or individual thiefs, would
    not respect though would probably steal from his trade route if they get a
    chance.


    Well this is the way i think, but as i have said i am new to BirthRight
    please correct me if any of the things i have said is wrong.


    Hugo A. G. Vilardouro

    Searching for knoledge.

  2. #2
    DURKS95@aol.co
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    one final word from me on unblo

    If rulers in Birthright didn't have to be blooded then this world wouldn't be
    different from others, why would you want a weaker ruler on the throne
    anyway. And this hier may just have to prove himself by getting a bloodline,
    or maybe if they liked him so much one of the guildsman would give him
    theres. If you want some pansy unblooded player running things go ahead, but
    If I was playing and there was an unblooded rival he'd be dead in an instant.

    Red Spider
    Who thinks unblooded people are weak and thinks bloodletting is fun

  3. #3
    Dandakil Snerd/Obscured
    Guest

    one final word from me on unblo

    - ----------
    > From: TMG
    > To: birthright@MPGN.COM
    > Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - one final word from me on unblooded regents
    > Date: Friday, April 25, 1997 2:55 PM
    >
    > Hugo Alexandre Vilardouro - LEI wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Dandakil Snerd/Obscured wrote:
    > >
    > > > I simply have one final jab at those who are COMPLETELY against
    Unblooded
    > > > Regents, and think it is a STUPID idea.
    > > > Heres a little story.
    > > > A thief named Davan had a little 3 year old boy. He had a 16
    charisma, and
    > > > was very well liked. One day, as he
    > > > was one of the Guild Leaders (he was blooded) Leutenants, he was
    invested
    > > > during the Guild Leaders final moments.
    > > > 15 years pass by. The 3 year old grows up around all the Guildsmen,
    and is
    > > > well liked as the Guild leaders (still unblooded)
    > > > son. He is also the heir to the guild, as his son.
    > > > One day, Davan kicks the bucket unexpectedly, before he can invest
    his
    > > > bloodline in his son. The son is heir, and becomes the leader of the
    > > > Guild.
    > > > I want to know if those of you people who say that NO WAY a person
    can have
    > > > regency think that:
    > > > This son could not set up a FREAKING TRADE ROUTE (1 GB, and ****1
    RP****)
    > > > before he was slaughtered (in your ideas)
    > > > just because he didnt have blood, even though he was well-liked as
    the son
    > > > of a regent. He obviously couldn't set up a trade
    > > > route without a regency point.
    > > > What kind of tie does a Guild merchant have to the land?
    > > > It is absurd to think that the rules restrict some people so much as
    to
    > > > outlaw a move like this.
    > > > Thanks for listening,
    > > > Daniel Perkin
    > >
    > > Excuse me for my english (i am Portuguese).
    > >
    > > I am new to Birthright and to this mail list so excuse me if any
    thing i
    > > say in this post is wrong.
    > >
    > > -When a blooded char has a child doesn't his child get's
    automatically
    > > BL and the Blood Str=(father Blood Str+mother Blood Str)/2 ?
    > >
    > > Apart from that:
    > >
    > > The way i intend to play a non blooded pc being a regent is just i
    play
    > > a blooded char that his BS = 0. everytime he/she collects RP he gets a
    > > max. of 1RP.
    > >
    > > You may say this is to low but i am being a DM in a BirthRight
    campain
    > > and one of my PC Blood Str=4 so i think any other amount of RP for a
    non
    > > blooded char would be unfair..
    > > Of course i may think of creating an object that has a natural
    relation
    > > to the land an soo allowing the collect of more RP.
    > > Something like an ancient tree or some artifact that as come direcly
    > > from the gods well anything (if this is ever needed in my campain).
    > > But is not because a non blooded char has a CHA:16 that the king
    would
    > > let him rulle a gild as eassly as a blooded char. Think like this when
    > > someone makes a trade route (and expends 1 RP) he is really telling
    > > everyone "This is MY trade route i am a direct descent from the gods so
    > > respect me. Don't touch MY TRADE ROUTE.".
    > > If a nonblooded char makes a trade route and although he may be
    respect
    > > in the guild he rules, thiefs from other guild or individual thiefs,
    would
    > > not respect though would probably steal from his trade route if they
    get a
    > > chance.
    > >
    > >
    > > Well this is the way i think, but as i have said i am new to
    BirthRight
    > > please correct me if any of the things i have said is wrong.
    > >
    > > Hugo A. G. Vilardouro
    > >
    > > Searching for knoledge.
    > >
    > >> > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the
    line
    > > 'unsubscribe birthright' as the body of the message.
    >
    >
    >
    > If the father was a blooded character then the son would be born blooded
    > himself so there fore he is not an unblooded ruler.
    >

    Read the dang story again. It says the son was born PRIOR to the father
    being invested.

    sheesh...

  4. #4
    Dandakil Snerd/Obscured
    Guest

    one final word from me on unblo

    > and
    > was very well liked. One day, as he
    > was one of the Guild Leaders (he was blooded) Leutenants, he was
    invested
    > during the Guild Leaders final moments.

    OK dude, read the part of the story above. It says he has the kid BEFORE
    he gets
    his bloodline. Give me a break. Do you people not read my statement before
    making
    a judgement?
    vvvvvvvvvvvvv


    > Your logic is flawed: First, the son would have a bloodline, since his
    father
    > (Devon) was blooded. This would give him a bloodline strenght of at least
    > half his father's, even if the mother were a commoner with no bloodline
    at
    > all.
    .

    It is sad to see that so many people missed my point here. If he has a kid
    before he is invested,
    his kid remains the same. Thats the point. My logic is *FAR* from flawed.

    If you read the rest of the story, everything makes total sense. That is
    why I submitted that story.

    Thanks, and dont take this wrong,
    Daniel Perkin

  5. #5
    Cec Stacey
    Guest

    one final word from me on unblo

    - ----------
    >
    > BI> -When a blooded char has a child doesn't his child get's
    automatically
    > BI>BL and the Blood Str=(father Blood Str+mother Blood Str)/2 ?
    >
    > Precisely. The son of a blooded person would have a blood str of at
    > least 1 ((1+0)/2=.5 rounds up to 1), so the secnario mentoined would not
    > be possible. The son would, indeed be blooded if the father was.
    >
    I think that if you check back in the original post, you'll see that in the
    example above the father was unblooded at the time the child was born, and
    was invested with a bloodline afterwards. Remember, inheritance is NOT
    retroactive. So, your math would be 0+0=0. No bloodline.

  6. #6
    Hugo Alexandre Vilardour
    Guest

    one final word from me on unblo

    On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Cec Stacey wrote:
    > I think that if you check back in the original post, you'll see that in the
    > example above the father was unblooded at the time the child was born, and
    > was invested with a bloodline afterwards. Remember, inheritance is NOT
    > retroactive. So, your math would be 0+0=0. No bloodline.

    Well i said that a non blooded regent or a blooded regent with
    Blood Str=0 would receive 1 RP doesnt matter if the father has blood or
    not or if it was lost during the years i give them 1RP.
    Its harder on then but hey birthright is about blooded PC rulling if one
    Non Bloded becomes a ruller of something it will be hard on him ....


    Hugo A. G. Vilardouro

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