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04-19-1997, 10:37 PM #1UndertakerGuest
Unit Limit
At 01:35 AM 4/20/97 +1300, Brian Logan(brian@ramhb.co.nz)wrote:
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>A previous suggestion was to lomit the number of military units that can be
>supported by a province to the province level. i.e. a regent with x
>provinces totaling 20 can only support a maximum of 20 units.
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Although I can't quote the source exactly(my stuff is in the other room),
I'm almost sure this is the official rule regarding this, not just a
suggestion. The idea being; a Provience can not create, or maintain more
units then it has Provience Levels. Therefore a Ruler's army can be no
larger then the total of all Provience Levels he controls. I may be wrong,
so anyone feel free to correct me on this if I am.
Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
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04-20-1997, 12:33 AM #2MemnochI@aol.coGuest
Unit Limit
Actually, you are half right. A Regent can only muster as many units as a
particular province has levels in one domain turn, although there is no
official rule stating anything about having more units that total province
levels. This idea is not necessarily needed to bring about trimming down a
ruler that has too many units. Simply attacking his source of income (trade
routes, law holdings etc) can bring about fiscal destruction, which is
usually just as devastating as destruction of his provinces themselves.
Memnoch I@aol.com
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04-20-1997, 10:57 AM #3Brian LoganGuest
Unit Limit
At 08:33 PM 19/04/97 -0400, Memnoch I@aol.com wrote:
>Actually, you are half right. A Regent can only muster as many units as a
>particular province has levels in one domain turn, although there is no
>official rule stating anything about having more units that total province
>levels. This idea is not necessarily needed to bring about trimming down a
>ruler that has too many units. Simply attacking his source of income (trade
>routes, law holdings etc) can bring about fiscal destruction, which is
>usually just as devastating as destruction of his provinces themselves.
The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
put into the army?" Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.
Brian
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04-20-1997, 12:12 PM #4Sean BrownGuest
Unit Limit
> The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
> much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
> put into the army?"
There isn't anything to say everyone who joins the army comes from
the province it is raised in. There could be people from nearby
provinces or even realms who hear about the muster and want to join.
As well, immigrants can help to make up for the lost populace who are
pressed into service.
Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
> recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
> there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.
The province ruler can stop others from inside his/her province from
mustering armies, so they are the only one who gets the muster.
Sean
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04-20-1997, 02:19 PM #5MemnochI@aol.coGuest
Unit Limit
>The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
>much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
>put into the army?" Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
>recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
>there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.
>Brian
While this is true concerning levies, it is not much of a problem when
raising troops of other types. The amount of people in a unit is approx 200
whereas a level 0 province is up to 1000 persons, level 1 to 3 provinces
ranges from 2000 to 10000 people....now taking 600 persons from 10000 does
not seem like a very big draft from the populace to fill his armies...The
only time, IMO, that this would become a problem would be if the regent were
to muster (into viable units) more than 50% of th e population (i.e. grown
male adults) and the regent in question would not be able to support thru
taxation 25 units on a level 3 province (regardless on how it was done).
There really does not seem to me to be a problem herel
Memnoch
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