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  1. #1
    Undertaker
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    Unit Limit

    At 01:35 AM 4/20/97 +1300, Brian Logan(brian@ramhb.co.nz)wrote:
    >

    >
    >A previous suggestion was to lomit the number of military units that can be
    >supported by a province to the province level. i.e. a regent with x
    >provinces totaling 20 can only support a maximum of 20 units.
    >

    >

    Although I can't quote the source exactly(my stuff is in the other room),
    I'm almost sure this is the official rule regarding this, not just a
    suggestion. The idea being; a Provience can not create, or maintain more
    units then it has Provience Levels. Therefore a Ruler's army can be no
    larger then the total of all Provience Levels he controls. I may be wrong,
    so anyone feel free to correct me on this if I am.
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  2. #2
    MemnochI@aol.co
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    Unit Limit

    Actually, you are half right. A Regent can only muster as many units as a
    particular province has levels in one domain turn, although there is no
    official rule stating anything about having more units that total province
    levels. This idea is not necessarily needed to bring about trimming down a
    ruler that has too many units. Simply attacking his source of income (trade
    routes, law holdings etc) can bring about fiscal destruction, which is
    usually just as devastating as destruction of his provinces themselves.


    Memnoch I@aol.com

  3. #3
    Brian Logan
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    Unit Limit

    At 08:33 PM 19/04/97 -0400, Memnoch I@aol.com wrote:
    >Actually, you are half right. A Regent can only muster as many units as a
    >particular province has levels in one domain turn, although there is no
    >official rule stating anything about having more units that total province
    >levels. This idea is not necessarily needed to bring about trimming down a
    >ruler that has too many units. Simply attacking his source of income (trade
    >routes, law holdings etc) can bring about fiscal destruction, which is
    >usually just as devastating as destruction of his provinces themselves.

    The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
    much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
    put into the army?" Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
    recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
    there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.

    Brian
    A game for children
    Is the bane of men,
    Where loss is greater
    Than the win.
    - War

  4. #4
    Sean Brown
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    Unit Limit

    > The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
    > much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
    > put into the army?"

    There isn't anything to say everyone who joins the army comes from
    the province it is raised in. There could be people from nearby
    provinces or even realms who hear about the muster and want to join.
    As well, immigrants can help to make up for the lost populace who are
    pressed into service.

    Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
    > recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
    > there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.

    The province ruler can stop others from inside his/her province from
    mustering armies, so they are the only one who gets the muster.

    Sean

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    MemnochI@aol.co
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    Unit Limit

    >The problem is not what is involved to trim an army down by actions or how
    >much he can recruit at once, It is "When does he run out of population to
    >put into the army?" Add the factor that guild holders and priests can also
    >recruit troops, you must get to a point where someone cannot recruit because
    >there isn't anybody left suitable for the military.

    >Brian

    While this is true concerning levies, it is not much of a problem when
    raising troops of other types. The amount of people in a unit is approx 200
    whereas a level 0 province is up to 1000 persons, level 1 to 3 provinces
    ranges from 2000 to 10000 people....now taking 600 persons from 10000 does
    not seem like a very big draft from the populace to fill his armies...The
    only time, IMO, that this would become a problem would be if the regent were
    to muster (into viable units) more than 50% of th e population (i.e. grown
    male adults) and the regent in question would not be able to support thru
    taxation 25 units on a level 3 province (regardless on how it was done).
    There really does not seem to me to be a problem herel


    Memnoch

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