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04-11-1997, 03:30 PM #email@example.comGuest
IM>My objection is not to the purchase of TSR, but to the purchase of TSR
>by WoC. They have tried to break into the game market before. Ever
>hear of Ars Magica or SLA Industries, they were games, and decent ones
I think the key word here is "decent". Better is the death knell for
good enough. Being a "decent" game isn't even good enough.
>that WoC bought didn't support and in turn killed. They bought
>up a whole mess of games right after they made their big hit with
>magic. They overextended, and cut all the games (and people for you TSR
>employees) loose. Making them in essence dead. My concern is not that
>TSR products will be hurt, they can't be if current writers are kept,
>but that the colossal mismanagement WoC has exhibited in the past will
>lead to the demise of a game played and loved by millions. TSR is not
>the only one to blame here. We could have done something. TSR stock
>has been on the market for years. The game has been around 22. There
>has to be some people with some money or a rich Uncle that could've
>invested. Hell if we all just spent $100 on TSR stock none of this crap
>would have happened.
Wrong! Just because you own $100 worth of stock doesn't mean you are
going to be making any decisions for the company. If you buy said stock
you are in esscence "loaning" TSR your money and saying "Here do
something with this." It wouldn't have changed anything. Besides most
people have given many hundreds of dollars to TSR as consumers, how
many do you think want to take a risk of buying stock. Especially a
company that is constantly being slammed as a money grubbing
corporation on the net. And I'm not saying that they are, I
support TSR as much as anyone because I love the game. And I
understand that in order to keep your head above water you have to
sell products. But TSR's market is limited and they are forced to
come out with new products to keep their market buying. If you have a
limited market and they stop buying (Why do you think 2nd Edition came
out?) a company folds.
> Above it all we can't blame the creative talent at TSR for this
>circumstance. They had nothing to do with it. There is one other
>thing that bothers me. TSR and WoC are both out to make money
>why would you shutdown a company for something like 6 months. What the
>hell are they thinking. Most corporate takeovers happen witout an
>interruption in production.
I believe the problem was in the Printers, not the corporate takeover.
Also you keep wanting to blame somebody. The state of TSR is of yet
undetermined, yet everyone is reacting as though its doomed. I say
blame yourselves because you all are the people who feel this is a turn
for the worse. If you keep slamming this new merger YOU are going to
>If TSR was in such bad financial shape they could have asked us for
>some help. Pass the hat. Never know people are pretty generous
>when it comes to something they love.
I think this is pretty unrealistic.
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04-12-1997, 07:03 AM #2Vestrii@aol.coGuest
In a message dated 97-04-11 23:50:06 EDT, you write:
> Wrong! Just because you own $100 worth of stock doesn't mean you are
> going to be making any decisions for the company. If you buy said stock
> you are in esscence "loaning" TSR your money and saying "Here do
> something with this." It wouldn't have changed anything. Besides most
The only way it would have worked is if people formed a single voting
block and attended shareholder meetings (if TSR had any..?). The odds
of that many people agreeing on issues aren't very good.
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