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    Andrew Levashoff
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    Trade Routes

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    Hi,

    I have a question that I hope someone can answer. The ruler of a level 4
    guild holding wishes to establish a trade route over a sea route, to a
    province with someone who has a level 0 guild holding. Would both parties
    receive income from the trade route, or only the one who established the
    trade route? One other question I have, is can someone with a level 0 guild
    have a trade route?

    Thanks

    Andy



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  2. #2
    swords
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    Trade Routes

    > I have a question that I hope someone can answer. The ruler of a level 4
    >guild holding wishes to establish a trade route over a sea route, to a
    >province with someone who has a level 0 guild holding. Would both parties
    >receive income from the trade route, or only the one who established the
    >trade route? One other question I have, is can someone with a level 0 guild
    >have a trade route?

    The way I've been playing is that the person who establishes the route get
    the income for it. The person who has holdings on the other end get money
    from the guild collections. I wouldn't think that someone with that low of
    guild connections in the area would be able to establish any trade routes.

    Michael

  3. #3
    Ian Hoskins
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    Trade Routes

    On 27-Mar-97, Andrew Levashoff set out across the seas with this message:
    - ->Hi,

    - ->I have a question that I hope someone can answer. The ruler of a level 4
    - ->guild holding wishes to establish a trade route over a sea route, to a
    - ->province with someone who has a level 0 guild holding. Would both parties
    - ->receive income from the trade route, or only the one who established the
    - ->trade route? One other question I have, is can someone with a level 0 guild
    - ->have a trade route?

    The way I play it is to give income only to the regent who controls the trade
    route, in this case the trade route would provide 2 GB to the level 4 guild
    holding.
    I don't allow level 0 guilds to have trade routes, but if they could they
    would be open to easy destruction during any contest action.


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  4. #4
    Sean Brown
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    Trade Routes

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the rules that says a level 0
    guild holding cannot have a trade route. Therefore, it would seem to
    me that the ruler of the level 0 guild would get the average of the
    two holdings (2) in GB and RP each turn

    Sean

  5. #5
    Sean Brown
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    Trade Routes

    Apparantly I should have read all the pertinant messages before
    writing my last letter.

    It seems that many people set up their trade routes so that only the
    person who initiates the trade route gets any profit, but I cannot
    see how this makes sense. Why would anyone want to trade with
    someone else if they didn't get anything out if it. If the two
    parties are truly TRADING then they both should get something out of
    the deal. Saying that the smaller guild is ignored because it is
    only level 0 seems odd, as it would make sense that you coould stand
    to gain much more by trading with a mor e powerful guild ( they have
    more connections, and thus a greater variety of products to trade
    with you...makes it easier to find what is most in demand in the home
    province...) This, of course is simply MHO

    Sean

  6. #6
    Undertaker
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    Trade Routes

    At 07:09 PM 3/30/97 AST, Sean Brown(brownds@TUPMCMS1.MED.DAL.CA)wrote:
    >

    >
    >It seems that many people set up their trade routes so that only the
    >person who initiates the trade route gets any profit, but I cannot
    >see how this makes sense.
    >

    >

    As I remember its been the general concensous that if two seprate parties
    are involved in a Trade Route, then the GB profit should be split equally
    amongst them. This allows smaller Guild Holdings to profit from dealing with
    larger ones, and all around makes more sense. If I'm mistaken here someone
    please correct me.

    Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
    RL Homepage: http://www.metrolink.net/~veleda/sepulcher.html

  7. #7
    Sean Brown
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    Trade Routes

    > guild holding cannot have a trade route. Therefore, it would seem to
    > me that the ruler of the level 0 guild would get the average of the
    > two holdings (2) in GB and RP each turn.>>
    >
    > 0 level holdings don't generate gold or regency. How therefore can they
    > generate gold for a trade route? 0 level holdings exist ONLY to contest a
    > current holding and to rule up. Without a 0 level holding you cannot contest
    > a current holding.

    If 0 level holdings can contest other holdings (a realm action) why
    can't they perform other realm actions ( like trade routes). It
    never says anywhere that 0 level guilds can't do anything. They
    still generate their level in RP and GP every turn (ie 0).

    Sean

  8. #8
    Verrrucht@aol.co
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    Trade Routes

    In a message dated 97-03-30 19:50:13 EST, you write:

    >

    0 level holdings don't generate gold or regency. How therefore can they
    generate gold for a trade route? 0 level holdings exist ONLY to contest a
    current holding and to rule up. Without a 0 level holding you cannot contest
    a current holding.

    Verrucht

  9. #9
    utopiaone@qconline.co
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    Trade Routes

    BI>0 level holdings don't generate gold or regency. How therefore can they
    BI>generate gold for a trade route? 0 level holdings exist ONLY to contest a
    BI>current holding and to rule up. Without a 0 level holding you cannot contes
    BI>a current holding.

    BI>Verrucht

    The guild isn't generating the money and regency, the trade route is.
    The guild is merely a staging point for the trade route. The money is
    gained through tolls/taxes/tributes paid by merchants to use the trade
    route, thus I see no problem with a level 0 guild supporting a trade
    route (though it gives little protection for the money that is
    collected. If you were really against having 0 level guilds bringing in
    lots of cash, a couple of attacks on these poorly staffed establishments
    by bandits would change the regents attitude fairly quickly).

    Chris
    UtopiaOne@qconline.com

  10. #10
    L. Willett
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    Trade Routes

    > 0 level holdings don't generate gold or regency. How therefore can they
    > generate gold for a trade route? 0 level holdings exist ONLY to contest a
    > current holding and to rule up. Without a 0 level holding you cannot
    contest
    > a current holding.

    Well you have to have guild holdings in both provinces, for a trade route,
    we all know that. I think a level 0 holding counts for this purpose. It
    acts as a send off point for the caravans, what have you. If anybody does
    want you to have that trade route, its easily squashed...
    On the other hand, trade routes are the way to make any money, so maybe
    forcing players to require at least level 1 guild holdings makes trade
    routes more difficult to form ?

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