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  1. #1
    Dominic Reynolds
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    Blood Lines and Blood Abilities

    Should a Cerillian character plane shift from Cerilla, I understand
    that a characters bloodline wanes.

    Would anybody be able to quote references for this.

    However would the Blood Abilities be lost even if they were not
    Great powers or unusual powers.

    The kind of powers I mean by the above are Travel, Regeneration,
    Shadow Form.

    Is there any justification for a character to be stripped of the enhanced
    abilities or minor/major powers, as the characters or their ancestors
    were imbued with the powers of the deities which they most closely
    represented. Thus they would be of a very, very minor demigod status.

    The only way I can see justification in the reduction in blood abilities is
    that they are either stripped from them by the Cerillian deities as a
    displeasure, or stripped from them by the dominant deities in the region
    to which they have just travelled.

    Any comments.

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    dominicreynolds@dial.pipex.com

  2. #2
    Jonathan Picklesimer
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Dominic Reynolds wrote:

    > Blood Lines and Blood Abilities
    >
    > Should a Cerillian character plane shift from Cerilla, I understand
    > that a characters bloodline wanes.
    >
    > The only way I can see justification in the reduction in blood abilities is
    > that they are either stripped from them by the Cerillian deities as a
    > displeasure, or stripped from them by the dominant deities in the region
    > to which they have just travelled.

    Although I have no hard reference for this, I will justify the waning of
    the blood abilities by saying that the blood abilities are linked
    directly to the land. Cerillia, unlike so many other campaign worlds,
    literally flows with magic. THe casting of realm spells, for example,
    requiress that the casting wizrd tap directly into the magic potential,
    or mebghail of the land. It is the land's magic that gives the wizard
    the power.

    In a similar manner, it is the innate magic of the land that imbues hte
    regent with the mystical power of regency. If separated from the lnad,
    he can no longer be a regent. That is what divesting a regent does,
    break his ties with the land.

    Now, if you were to take a blooded character away from Cerillia, would he
    loose his ability to use his blood abilities: yes and no. Yes, he would
    loose the ability to do a travel, or a bloodform or even a minor ability
    because he/she does not have access to the mebghail to draw power to do
    these things. If you were to return the character to Cerillia, would the
    character be able to use his.her abilities? Sure, after he/she has had
    timeto reaqauaint themselves with the land and store up some of the
    mebghail.

    Of course, all of the above is MHO.

    Jonathan

  3. #3
    Trevor Romkey
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    At 10:25 AM 26/03/97 -0600, you wrote:
    >On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Dominic Reynolds wrote:
    >
    >> Blood Lines and Blood Abilities
    >>
    >> Should a Cerillian character plane shift from Cerilla, I understand
    >> that a characters bloodline wanes.
    >>
    >> The only way I can see justification in the reduction in blood abilities is
    >> that they are either stripped from them by the Cerillian deities as a
    >> displeasure, or stripped from them by the dominant deities in the region
    >> to which they have just travelled.
    >
    >Although I have no hard reference for this,

    There is a "hard refrence for this " in the Planescape supplement"On hollow
    ground" it states that the blood abilities wane when the scion leaves that
    crystal sphere...
    No need to justify anything TSR has done it for us...


    > I will justify the waning of
    >the blood abilities by saying that the blood abilities are linked
    >directly to the land. Cerillia, unlike so many other campaign worlds,
    >literally flows with magic. THe casting of realm spells, for example,
    >requiress that the casting wizrd tap directly into the magic potential,
    >or mebghail of the land. It is the land's magic that gives the wizard
    >the power.
    >
    >In a similar manner, it is the innate magic of the land that imbues hte
    >regent with the mystical power of regency. If separated from the lnad,
    >he can no longer be a regent. That is what divesting a regent does,
    >break his ties with the land.
    >
    >Now, if you were to take a blooded character away from Cerillia, would he
    >loose his ability to use his blood abilities: yes and no. Yes, he would
    >loose the ability to do a travel, or a bloodform or even a minor ability
    >because he/she does not have access to the mebghail to draw power to do
    >these things. If you were to return the character to Cerillia, would the
    >character be able to use his.her abilities? Sure, after he/she has had
    >timeto reaqauaint themselves with the land and store up some of the
    >mebghail.
    >
    >Of course, all of the above is MHO.
    >
    >Jonathan
    >
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  4. #4
    Verrrucht@aol.co
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    In a message dated 97-03-26 10:40:08 EST, you write:

    >

    The Cerilian Gods do not exist in other realms. The power of a God comes from
    belief in or knowledge of said God. If no one worships the Gods or say
    never even knew they existed, that power wanes.
    In our society people worship Christ, Buddha, Krishna and various other
    entities. Our society therefore validates and knows of these Gods whether
    they believe in them or not. Also quite a few people know of the various
    "Classic Gods" like Zeus, Hermes, Thor, Odin, etc. Just knowing of these
    Gods gives them "power".
    So if your Cerilian scion goes to the Forgotten realms, no one has ever
    heard of Anduiras, no one knows of the legend of Mt Deismaar. In the
    Forgotten realms there never was a Mt Deismaar nor an Anduiras. Therefore
    Anduiras has (had) no power in the Realms.

  5. #5
    Undertaker
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    At 07:18 AM 3/26/97 -0000, Dominic(dominicreynolds@dial.pipex.com)wrote:
    >
    >Blood Lines and Blood Abilities
    >
    >Should a Cerillian character plane shift from Cerilla, I understand
    >that a characters bloodline wanes.
    >
    >Would anybody be able to quote references for this.
    >

    >

    There are many ways to look at this, and as someone mentioned TSR has thrown
    in 2 cents as well("On Hallowed Ground"). It does seem that BA come, at
    least in part, from the land of Cerilia. Granted by the BL that is carried
    in certain beings, but since TSR says the abilities mearly wane when they
    leave Cerilia, then they still should have some abilities, just lessened(or
    altered)in some way. In order to judge this the DM needs to look at the
    world the Blooded individual is traveling to. Each world has its own "magic"
    that exists in that sphere, so a DM must decide what effect this is going to
    have on BAs. Taking examples from TSR worlds, think about this. In Ravenloft
    the Dark Powers taint all magic used in that world, would they not do the
    same to BAs. In Darksun, magic is closely tied to nature, and some
    spellcasters(Defilers)drain life energy from the land to cast thier spells.
    Prehaps BAs would do the same. I think a hard fast rule, covering the
    effects of plane travel on BAs, would be a bad idea. Each situation should
    be givin unique treatment. Of course this is just IMHO, others may vary.

    Undertaker, richt@metrolink.net
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  6. #6
    Sean Brown
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    >
    > The Cerilian Gods do not exist in other realms. The power of a God comes from
    > belief in or knowledge of said God. If no one worships the Gods or say
    > never even knew they existed, that power wanes.

    This is just a minor, nitpick point, but as it stands, the demihuman
    gods DO exist in other realms...eg Moradin, etc. Would that have any
    effect on the ability to transfer bloodlines.

    Hmm...just thought of this while writing this note. Anybody care to
    hazard a guess why the demihuman gods, like Moradin stayed out of
    Deismar, while their followers (eg Dwarves) took such an active
    role?

    Sean

  7. #7
    Seb Berendse
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    Sean wrote:
    > This is just a minor, nitpick point, but as it stands, the demihuman
    > gods DO exist in other realms...eg Moradin, etc. Would that have any
    > effect on the ability to transfer bloodlines.

    I think it would still have no effect when travelling the planes or
    whatever. As I had seen it as a general conclusion with this thread
    on bloodabilities being lost, is that since the person travelling is
    away from the land, he/she loses the abilities. No matter whether or
    not those abilities came from gods/not, it is the mystical connection
    to the land, not the god in the first place.

    > Hmm...just thought of this while writing this note. Anybody care to
    > hazard a guess why the demihuman gods, like Moradin stayed out of
    > Deismar, while their followers (eg Dwarves) took such an active
    > role?

    Why make a specific choise in a human conflict? Just think of what
    kight have happened MORE than what already has been done at Deismar
    if the powerful Dwaven gods had waded in? I bet the near defeat of
    the humans (and elves and dwarves) would not have been so, they would
    have triumphed gloriously, no problem.
    Which reminds me of something else, do the humanoids (Orogs, and the
    various goblinoids) as wel as the Giants have their own Gods, or is
    it all Azrai/Dark Rider? (I have no books/material on B-right). If
    so, it would be a plausible explanation for the absence of Dwarven
    Gods: the humanoid gods weren't there, so no worries.

    Seb

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    Verrrucht@aol.co
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    Cerillian Blood Abilities

    In a message dated 97-03-30 20:33:32 EST, you write:

    >

    Why would they? They didn't transfer their power to mortals.



    Good question considering Dwarves and their Gods are such warlike people.]

    Verrucht

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