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03-23-1997, 01:25 PM #1Cec StaceyGuest
Support for units
I've been pondering over the problems my game has been having with the
large armies (remember the 9000 man battle with Osoerde mentioned
earlier?). Trevor Romkey and I have come up with this solution that we
think will work quite well:
A province can create and support as many units as its level. Eg.
Caercas (4/1) can create 4 units of any regular unit except artillerists
(which need lvl 5). Support provinces for units can be switched, as
long as the province switched to can create those units itself. Eg.
Baron Roesone creates 4 units of infantry in Caercas. Then he wants to
make knights, but he can't because Caercas is already supporting 4
units. He can trade those units' support to other provinces, say
Ghoried and Fairfield for 2 each (assuming they have the room to support
them too). This is legal because Ghoried and Fairfield can create
infantry. Now the Baron creates his 4 units of knights. He cannot
create any more because 1) Caercas is the only province he has high
enough level to create knights, and 2) no other province is big enough
to support them because of 1).
This way, no ruler will have more armies than the total of his province
You may have noticed that I've left out the other holdings - guilds,
churches and sources. For them it works the same way, but with holding
levels. For example, if the Impregnable Heart of Haelyn has 2 lvl 4
churches, he can only have a maximum of 8 knights anywhere.
What I'm talking about here is only *support* - food, supplies, horses,
replacements, etc... It does not mean that the unit has to be
co-located in that province. The Baron of Roesone could have his whole
army in the Gorgon's Crown and still be supported by their respective
provinces. All I'm trying to do is keep the numbers of units down.
This system makes sense: A single province like Endier shouldn't be
able to support a 5000 man army. That would be most of the population.
Likewise, a domain of small provinces (assume the 4 provinces of Aerenwe
in the Erbannien were made into a realm for High Mage Aelies) wouldn't
be able to support a large army either. And with the example of
Roesone, by the rules he could create 16 units of knights a year.
That's roughly 3200 men! That's unrealistic to the extreme (not to
mention horribly expensive, but I wouldn't put it past him!). We're
testing these rules now, but I'd like any feedback you people have on
03-23-1997, 03:58 PM #2HCD or SIR SPUD IGuest
Support for units
CEC STACEY wrote
> . . . the Baron creates his 4 units of knights. He cannot
> create any more because 1) Caercas is the only province he has high
> enough level to create knights, and 2) no other province is big enough
> to support them because of 1).
> This way, no ruler will have more armies than the total of his > province levels.
> What I'm talking about here is only *support* - food, supplies, > horses,
> replacements, etc... And with the example of
> Roesone, by the rules he could create 16 units of knights a year.
> That's roughly 3200 men!
I think this is a great idea that makes a lot of sense. What I have a
question about is if the Baron can only create and support 4 units of
knights, how can he create 16 units per year. It seems to me that if no
one bothers him for a year or two, he could have 32 units of knights
plus any other troops he makes. Is this correct, or am I missing
Sir Spud I
03-24-1997, 10:08 AM #3Cec StaceyGuest
Support for units
> I think this is a great idea that makes a lot of sense. What I have a
> question about is if the Baron can only create and support 4 units of
> knights, how can he create 16 units per year. It seems to me that if no
> one bothers him for a year or two, he could have 32 units of knights
> plus any other troops he makes. Is this correct, or am I missing
> Sir Spud I
According to the rulebook, a province can only create up to its level in
units per domain turn. For example, Caercas is a (4/1) so it can create
4 units per domain turn, or 16 units per year.
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