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>I don't think they're actually form changes, its just variations in =
size.
>Cerilian goblins all look the same, aside from the height, the =
comparisons to
>normal goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears are just stat wise. I think =
its much
>like human variations on height taken to an extreme degree...

I'd definately disagree with this. The three types of Cerilian goblins =
are, I think,
different enough to warrant three completely different races united only =
by a
common ancestor or something. I'd prefer to think of Goblin society as =
triple-
tiered, with the hobgoblins (for example) ruling the whole place, =
enslaving the
normal goblins and using bugbears as labour/elite fighters.

Keep in mind that what's presented above is a quick model I just pulled =
from
somewhere. It's not really consistant to the existing goblin domains, =
anyway :)

>I don't know about the goblins having an eastern philosiphy, except =
mabey for
>those in Khinasi. In the atlas to cerilla I think it said somehwat =
emulate the
>human societies around them in their own way. The Anuirean goblins have
>nobility and much power in their kings, Vos goblins are very harsh and =
brutal,
>etc. Mabey the ancient goblin empire was eastern in thought, but I =
doubt the
>current ones are.

I agree with this, as far as it goes. It's fairly evident that the =
current goblin rulers
emulate the human domains surrounding them. However, I think you're =
missing
Mark's point - that once upon a time Goblins lived in an advanced =
culture, unique
to their own. He suggested that the ancient Goblin society was "Eastern" =
in outlook.
But this has nothing to do with Khinasi. Khinasi are based on the Arab =
nations.
Mark's mention of an Eastern outlook was based mainly on Japan/China, I =
believe.

>I always just assumed that's where you found faeries in Birthright...I =
mean
>the list of monsters found in Birthright found at the back of the rules =
does
>list sprites, brownies, dryads, and treants (although dryads and =
treants
>aren't too faerish...sprites are).

Yeah. You're right.
That's just to lessen the sting of me complaining about all your points =
above ;)

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>I don't think they're actually form =
changes,=20
its just variations in size.>Cerilian goblins all look the same, =
aside=20
from the height, the comparisons to>normal goblins, hobgoblins, =
and=20
bugbears are just stat wise. I think its much>like human =
variations on=20
height taken to an extreme degree...
 
I'd definately disagree with this. The =
three types=20
of Cerilian goblins are, I think,
different enough to warrant three =
completely=20
different races united only by a
common ancestor or something. I'd =
prefer to think=20
of Goblin society as triple-
tiered, with the hobgoblins (for =
example) ruling=20
the whole place, enslaving the
normal goblins and using bugbears as =
labour/elite=20
fighters.
 
Keep in mind that what's presented =
above is a quick=20
model I just pulled from
somewhere. It's not really consistant =
to the=20
existing goblin domains, anyway :)>I don't know about the =
goblins=20
having an eastern philosiphy, except mabey for>those in Khinasi. =
In the=20
atlas to cerilla I think it said somehwat emulate the>human =
societies=20
around them in their own way. The Anuirean goblins have>nobility =
and much=20
power in their kings, Vos goblins are very harsh and brutal,>etc. =
Mabey=20
the ancient goblin empire was eastern in thought, but I doubt =
the>current=20
ones are.
 
I agree with this, as far as it goes. =
It's fairly=20
evident that the current goblin rulers
emulate the human domains surrounding =
them.=20
However, I think you're missing
Mark's point - that once upon a time =
Goblins lived=20
in an advanced culture, unique
to their own. He suggested that the =
ancient Goblin=20
society was "Eastern" in outlook.
But this has nothing to do =
with Khinasi.=20
Khinasi are based on the Arab nations.
Mark's mention of an Eastern outlook =
was based=20
mainly on Japan/China, I believe.>I always just assumed =
that's where=20
you found faeries in Birthright...I mean>the list of monsters =
found in=20
Birthright found at the back of the rules does>list sprites, =
brownies,=20
dryads, and treants (although dryads and treants>aren't too=20
faerish...sprites are).
Yeah. You're right.
That's just to lessen the sting of me =
complaining=20
about all your points above ;)
 
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Alasar

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