I made it to the once and future worlds sessions at Gen Con, We still
have a good chance of bringing the line back. I was told that they were
receiving allot of e-mail about birthright and dark sun and that it peaked
their interest, they also said that when they re-released the birthright
box-set it was the most successful box -set sold. they said the best way to
bring the line back is to keep sending them emails through the internet just
like greyhawk as craig said. I also have a business card from a brand
manager his name is David Wise. his e-mail address is wiseguy@wizards.com.
we need to send all the e-mail possible to this guy. I also handed him about
twenty letters that were sent to me from people on this list. and he was
actually reading them during the meeting when he wasn't answering questions.
So lets keep up the good work.

Mark Modena

- -----Original Message-----
From: Craig Dalrymple
To: birthright@lists.imagiconline.com
Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRTHRIGHT] - AD&D news=Death of BR?

>I snipped the couple of posts about the potential merger of BR rules into
>the Core Rules for D&D. I am assuming that everyone reading this is aware
>what was being discussed at least to the smallest degree.
>Now then, I don't really think that inserting BR into the Core Rules would
>be the death of Cerilia. Why? Well, for one, we are still developing it.
>That's all that is really needed. For two, Rich Baker still has an interest
>in it, and given the chance, he will develop it.
>How do I know that? I talked with him today. My schedule at Gen Con got
>messed up, so I missed the Once and Future Worlds (and can only hope for a
>report on that from one of the others who managed to make that meeting. I
>majorly bummed about missing it) meeting.
>When I spotted Rich at the WOTC castle, I came up and asked him some
>questions. Mostly about what we could do as a group to get BR back in
>production in some format. The following is a hash of what he said. I
>interviewing him and don't have a tape, so I am going on memory, any
>mistakes apologized for.
>1. Rich would still like to see the world devleoped. In fact, he has a
>for it he'd love WOTC to buy and print. :) Can't blame him there, that's
>he makes his living.
>2. Rich said he'd like to see some of the things already under production
>when the line went down put out in at least electronic format on a pay to
>download basis. This would get us the Book of Regency, and perhaps allow
>the production time and costs to be put into finishing the other products
>(SW modules, etc.). An electronic sale would allow TSR to not have to pay
>for the printing, and not have to convince store owners to stock the dead
>line. Instead, the people who want it could just pay for it and get it. It
>would make a nice alternative to print material.
>3. He also said that he thought a limited run for BR that would update it
>the 3rd Edition Rules (coming next year) and bringing some events into play
>for Cerilia was appealing to him. Not a full run, or bring back; just an
>updated and clairified rulebook (like the Ravenloft one) and a bit of
>campaign/source material to put out and sell on a short run.
>These things tell me that there IS a future for BR. It's main designer
>has a place in his heart for the world, and that's the most important
>Plus, he has a few viable ideas for how it could be produced without
>burdening the company incredibly.
>So now the question I had for him was: What can we do to get it done?
>He said that he could bark up the TSR/WOTC command chain all he wanted and
>only have a certain extent of influence. He's not a consumer, he's a
>designer so his angle wouldn't necessairly be taken as a sure sign of sales
>by the higher ups. I was impressed that he said this to me as it's a
>realistic and non dreamy answer. He's just another employee and the people
>who make the final decisions need more than that.
>His suggestion for what could be more was us. He referenced the
>organization, dedication, and activity of the Greyhawk fans as a BIG factor
>in bringing it back. They made it plain and clear that there was a sizeable
>audience for GH material, so it was brought back.
>We need to keep this in mind with our activities. The www.birthright.net
>pages will be a wonderful focal point for all of this and a good way to
>rallied. The work being done there is great. I'm hoping to see it
>open sometime soon. ;)
>Another thing he said would have a positive reaction would be regular
>to the *BRAND MANAGERS* asking for more product to buy. These guys are the
>people who make the decision on what products are made, these guys are the
>people who need to know we want to spend some $$ for BR product. Sending
>mail to Rich, Ed, and Carrie, (or anyone else) won't really help. They
>love the support (and we should give it), but they can't make the final say
>so on what gets printed.
>This being noted, I'm going to try to dig up the email and names of the
>Brand Managers over the next day or two, and start a mailing campaign. I'll
>share their names with the list of course. I'm thinking that a bi monthly
>reminder of how much $$ I have to spend on games, and how there was nothing
>for me to buy will help. The letter should not be rude or angry, it should
>be polite, persistent, and constant. The Brand Managers just need to know
>that we are there and hungry for product. They need to know this often
>without us getting more than mildly annoying. ;)
>That's all I have. Any omissions, additions, and misrepresentations of Mr.
>Baker's comments are my fault alone and done without intent. I'm running on
>low sleep, looooooow sleep.
>All in all Gen Con was really cool. Looking forward to the 00 Con.
>Looking forward to the ideas of the others who went, and those of you on
>list who could not make it.
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