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    Tommy Ashton
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    birthright-digest V1999 #18

    At 11:21 AM 6/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
    >>Actually I'm the DM of a awesome adventure in the Cerilian ancient history,
    >when the five tribes of the continent of Aduria ran away from the Shadow...
    >
    Cool I would love to hear about that.

    >I want to know, and may be you have the answer, what is happening with the
    >line of Birthright products? It's out of print? It's fisnished?
    You can still get the published items out there at Amazon and tsr online
    shop. THe line is on indefinate hiatus. If you have the digest look for
    Ed Stark's message a few weeks ago. Hey moderator maybe we should just put
    Ed's last message into the FAQ until we have any other news.

    >
    >By the moment, I'm using the elements provide by the Birthright's Netbook.
    >If you have some news about the next products or the list of the products -
    >There is a campaign expansion of the Vosgard? - availables, because the
    >list in the TSR's WEB site is incomplete. I will appreciate that.
    Vosgaard is available.

    Here is my list of products:
    www.public.asu.edu/~ashton2/review.htm

    T
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    Joao Clark Medeiros
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    birthright-digest V1999 #18

    > By the moment, I'm using the elements provide by the Birthright's Netbook.
    > If you have some news about the next products or the list of the products -
    > There is a campaign expansion of the Vosgard? - availables, because the
    > list in the TSR's WEB site is incomplete. I will appreciate that.

    Yes, the Vosgard expansion is already out. It is called "Tribes of the
    Heartless Waste" and I got my copy off of Amazon.com. Unlike the ther
    expansions it doesn't come in a box, I'm assuming for budget purposes. It also
    has a cool feature in that it has two booklets instead of one: one for players
    and the other for the DM. It was well worth the money. As for the rest of the
    lineI believe that it has been indefinately suspended, which means that it
    probably won't come back unless there is a lot of interest.

    Bearcat

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    birthright-digest V1999 #18

    Birthright is a great setting in developing high level characters.
    For all the reasons that you mentioned, but also the fact that most the
    planet is unexplored. It would be very easy to counter high level characters
    with what ever you can dream of. For this same reason, planescape is also
    ideal setting for high level adventures. There is always something stronger
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    birthright-digest V1999 #18

    Jorge Arango wrote:

    > I was thinking one or two weeks ago, that may be the Birthright Setting is
    > one the settings with a big probability of develop high level characters
    > and also develop high level campaigns.
    >
    > There are many reasons, i.e.:
    >
    > - The coexistence of various races
    > - The big population (City of Anurean)
    > - The factor of the blood-abilities

    I agree, I agree and I agree. I'd add to that the signficance of story awards
    as a way of getting XP as opposed to hack 'n slash, the preferred method of
    awarding XP in the 2nd edition AD&D rules.

    > And so on. I had been running a campaign in Cerilia for about three years,
    > nowadays the characters have reach 14th level, indeed there is a 16th level
    > bard. This ws possible due to the amount of experiencie points earned in
    > wars, domain actions, and role-playing situations.
    >
    > I also played a character in Planescape, during two years, and I only
    > reached 9th level, I know that there are a lot of ways to give away
    > experiencie point. But the question is.
    >
    > Birthright is a most favorable setting for high level?

    I definately agree, though I haven't actually gotten to the levels you have,
    except for characters "imported" from other campaigns. I really don't see BR
    as a high- or low-level. I see it as a "naturally" set up one. That is, the
    distribution of levels and power is widely dispersed and, therfore, more like
    it ought to be, as opposed to the top heavy settings like GH or FR. Planescape
    is similarly "natural" with very low level characters interacting with
    amazingly powerful ones, making the emphasis good gaming, not monster hunting.
    To me, that's what role-playing is all about, which is why those two are my
    favorite AD&D worlds.

    Laters,
    Gary
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    John Sawyer
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    birthright-digest V1999 #18

    GeeMan wrote:

    > Jorge Arango wrote:
    >
    > > I was thinking one or two weeks ago, that may be the Birthright Setting is
    > > one the settings with a big probability of develop high level characters
    > > and also develop high level campaigns.
    > >
    > > There are many reasons, i.e.:
    > >
    > > - The coexistence of various races
    > > - The big population (City of Anurean)
    > > - The factor of the blood-abilities
    >
    > I agree, I agree and I agree. I'd add to that the signficance of story awards
    > as a way of getting XP as opposed to hack 'n slash, the preferred method of
    > awarding XP in the 2nd edition AD&D rules.
    >
    > > And so on. I had been running a campaign in Cerilia for about three years,
    > > nowadays the characters have reach 14th level, indeed there is a 16th level
    > > bard. This ws possible due to the amount of experiencie points earned in
    > > wars, domain actions, and role-playing situations.
    > >

    I just want to throw in my two coppers here, since prior to now I had thought I was
    the only one running a high level BR campaign. Even though it's now defunct
    (indefinite hiatus are the specific terms) and we've moved on to non-WotC/TSR games
    for at least awhile, I'm still interested in developments in this forum. As I've
    said, characters in my campaign ran about as long and reached about the same
    levels, so I'm interested to hear that your game ran a little differently. Of
    course, as the goal in my game was always to peel back one layer more of plot
    (which, of course, eventually reached absurdity, or the brink thereof), the whole
    thing got to a much grander scale than is intended for the world, IMO. Of course,
    that's just my DMing style, not a mistake. The point I was getting to was that
    without good players or a lot of checking, things can easily get out of hand in
    both monetary and power terms. In a world where awnsheglien are generally a
    solitary lot, players can easily get it into their heads that no one would miss one
    monster (the Chimera was a great example), and a well coordinated group (not that
    the party ever was one, but in theory) could fairly easily take almost any single
    creature of less than demigod status (I place a few of the awnsheglien above that
    level, btw) once they get to 12-14th level. I guess all I'm saying is that while
    the potential definitely exists for high leveled characters as much or more than in
    other settings, the person running it has to be as much or more careful to maintain
    a balance as he would in others.
    Thx,
    Alaric
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